Rigged Officiating

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Didn’t we blow a timeout because they were blaring the stadium music when Purdy was trying to get the play off? At a minimum, could the conference fine them for crap like that they can control as opposed to fining field rushes, which you can try to make safer but really never completely control?
According to Walters, yes.
 

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Or we can accept the status quo and continue to get screwed. Is that the better outcome?

Have Jamie or Campbell commented at all? If Jamie, at least, doesn’t then I’m not sure I still have confidence in the leadership of our athletic department. They’ve done great things, they need to address this situation in a very loud manner.
Public comments are not that important. Maybe for us, but not the team or league. Written report to league from ISU identifying referee mistakes are important.
 
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Have Jamie or Campbell commented at all? If Jamie, at least, doesn’t then I’m not sure I still have confidence in the leadership of our athletic department. They’ve done great things, they need to address this situation in a very loud manner.

The last time Jamie opened his mouth publicly about officiating, he got a $25K STFU from the Big 12.
 

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Maybe its because after being a Cyclone Fan for 59 years ....I am so Tired Of LOSING to teams with three wins and four losses....

maybe you should realize that hasn’t happened very often at all since 2017. Don’t make this team and these coaches suffer because you remember a bunch of ****** teams.
 

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Public comments are not that important. Maybe for us, but not the team or league. Written report to league from ISU identifying referee mistakes are important.
I hope that written report was all finished up and emailed off by the time that plane touched back down in Ames Saturday night.
 
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I just got home from Morgantown. I didn't read this whole thread, because I can guess most of what's inside. But here's something that happened at the game relating to this thread titled "Rigged Officiating".

In the 3rd quarter when WVU got an offensive pass interference penalty called against them, a WVU fan asked me how much the refs were getting paid. I told him "you don't have to pay the refs to be terrible, they can do that all on their own". At the time, I didn't know how right I was.

Guys, they were terrible refs, but no one was paying them to make ISU lose and the game was not rigged.

(note: that was literally the only ******* WVU fan I came across the entire trip, everyone else was awesome - over the top)
 
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I just got home from Morgantown. I didn't read this whole thread, because I can guess most of what's inside. But here's something that happened at the game relating to this thread titled "Rigged Officiating".

In the 3rd quarter when WVU got an offensive pass interference penalty called against them, a WVU fan asked me how much the refs were getting paid. I told him "you don't have to pay the refs to be terrible, they can do that all on their own". At the time, I didn't know how right I was.

Guys, they were terrible refs, but no one was paying them to make ISU lose and the game was not rigged.

(note: that was literally the only ******* WVU fan I came across the entire trip, everyone else was awesome - over the top)

Some good friends of mine have road tripped to every current and old big 12 member stadiums when they played Iowa State. They said the nicest fans were West Virginia with Oklahoma State being a close second. The West Virginia fans would not let them pull out their tailgating equipment. They fed them and gave them moonshine.
 
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Some good friends of mine have road tripped to every current and old big 12 member stadiums when they played Iowa State. They said the nicest fans were West Virginia with Oklahoma State being a close second. The West Virginia fans would not let them pull out their tailgating equipment. They fed them and gave them moonshine.

My host tried to pay for my hotel room (and got me into one within walking distance) and a random fan bought me a beer and a pepperoni roll. Beyond nice people.
 

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I was a High School official for 35 years for both football and basketball. After almost every game both coaching staffs thought we favored the other team. It's easy to soon forget the calls that go in your teams favor. An official only has a split second to make a play call and the camera rerun can make him look awfully bad. Basketball is worse because the game contains hundreds of calls that can go either way but football has more than we think.
 
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I was a High School official for 35 years for both football and basketball. After almost every game both coaching staffs thought we favored the other team. It's easy to soon forget the calls that go in your teams favor. An official only has a split second to make a play call and the camera rerun can make him look awfully bad. Basketball is worse because the game contains hundreds of calls that can go either way but football has more than we think.


I don't necessarily think anyone is being critical of the split second bang-bang every game calls people always complain about. It is the calls that stop play, take time and are reviewed that is the rub. And review isn't there to make them look bad.....it is suppose to assist the officials in getting it right. So if an official in a bang-bang makes an incorrect call (and we all know it's going to happen) and the review upholds that incorrect call.......what's the point of having review?
 
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I was a High School official for 35 years for both football and basketball. After almost every game both coaching staffs thought we favored the other team. It's easy to soon forget the calls that go in your teams favor. An official only has a split second to make a play call and the camera rerun can make him look awfully bad. Basketball is worse because the game contains hundreds of calls that can go either way but football has more than we think.
I'd agree with you if they didn't have the benefit of replay. Literally no reason to botch some of the calls they replayed.
 

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Judgement calls lead to human error. I guess we need robot referees. I am confident league officials critque every call, maybe every play and grade each referee each game. Until the players grade out as needed, it is hard for me to blame a loss on officials. Need to improve, yes. In contrast the guy who flagged us and took away a td should of been fired.
 
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Judgement calls lead to human error. I guess we need robot referees. I am confident league officials critque every call, maybe every play and grade each referee each game. Until the players grade out as needed, it is hard for me to blame a loss on officials. Need to improve, yes. In contrast the guy who flagged us and took away a td should of been fired.

I was joking about this - we need stadiums with a crap ton of cameras/lidar/etc and an artificial intelligence referee.

Really it's only a half joke, because I could see it happening eventually (50+ years in the future?). It's already basically started - think tennis for the line judging.
 
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Just here to ask if we have blasted the horrible OPI call on west va that was immediately followed by the Hummel pick 6?
 

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I was joking about this - we need stadiums with a crap ton of cameras/lidar/etc and an artificial intelligence referee.

Really it's only a half joke, because I could see it happening eventually (50+ years in the future?). It's already basically started - think tennis for the line judging.

I joked in high school about putting GPS markers in golf balls. That was 20 years ago. It should be a thing.
 

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I joked in high school about putting GPS markers in golf balls. That was 20 years ago. It should be a thing.
It sort of is a thing, they're trying anyways, but it probably makes the ball pretty terrible.


 
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I was joking about this - we need stadiums with a crap ton of cameras/lidar/etc and an artificial intelligence referee.

Really it's only a half joke, because I could see it happening eventually (50+ years in the future?). It's already basically started - think tennis for the line judging.

I don't think it's possible in football. Sure, you could put a chip inside a football that will give you an exact placement on a field at all times, but how would you then correlate that with a knee of other body part being down to show where the ball should be spotted.

The sport that will eventually be almost all automated umpiring is baseball.
 

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Didn’t we blow a timeout because they were blaring the stadium music when Purdy was trying to get the play off? At a minimum, could the conference fine them for crap like that they can control as opposed to fining field rushes, which you can try to make safer but really never completely control?
Unprofessional don’t you think. Will be interesting to see Holgerson back in the conference
 
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