All FB coaching rumors and speculation

[twincyties]

If I am CMC and wanted to leave ISU Id personally go Nebraska. That is the job with the highest upside. Big Ten East and SEC are just no go, too stiff of competition, being a really good coach only gets you so far, the ACC and Pac 12 being stuck on the coasts isnt that appealing. Makes me wonder if we can dodge Nebraska opening next year ISU might be a decent place for him to stick around, all depends on his family situation though is my guess, I do think CMC is a bit frustrated with his ability to recruit at Iowa St., just a darn uphill climb no matter how good of a coach he is.

Interesting that CMC Dad was in a similar postion on the high school level with a dominate team in the same city that apparently recruited pretty heavily, granted Iowa isnt dominant but they are darn consistent, Ferentz has been a heck of a coach for them.

I know you would laugh but if college football doesnt get its house in order by going decentralized I could see CMC walking away and going FCS, like a Brookings or a Youngstown. Seems like it would be a good place if you are just interested in the mentor and football strategy aspect.

So much depends on his immediate family on all this, especially when kids are young, as a parent with young kids I can tell you no career or geographical moves are happening in my house till kids are older.

No high school football player being recruited now or in the future was alive when Nebraska was good. Older generations still remember when they were a dominant program. But their program is absolute trash and there are not a whole lot of advantages to recruiting at Nebraska than there are at ISU. Unless you consider success 2 decades ago.

 

[iowastatefan1929]

"Loyalty and Faithfulness will deliver a King, delivering a King means getting the win, but its loyalty that keeps the crown."

From the speech after the KSU win and apparently a common theme this year.

Yeah pretty interesting quote to unpack but I think the logic is slightly off here, its a concious will to give your heart that delivers a King, and loyalty and faithfulness and perserverance that keep the crown. Even slight miscalculations in logic throw entire systems off.

 

[Dr.bannedman]

so thats where isu football is now? a coach will leave because he wants to read the bible to his players. not the millions of dollars in pay increase. ok chat

 

[BCClone]

First, people need to cross MSU off the list of jobs Campbell is interested in. He already said no thanks a couple years ago when he was less in demand.

Those schools may have their guys for a while, but Day to the NFL, Freeman flopping, those are all possibilities that will probably be apparent within 2-3 years. Campbell can bide his time at ISU and see if one of those things happens.

Honestly, ISU provides him some cover if he underwhelms record-wise. Most people just assume this is still a bad job and it's really hard to win here. People don't really think that about UVA. They are two years removed from a NY6 bowl, have a decent history and name brand.

I think the problem with your argument is that if all of this was true it probably would've made more sense to go to UW.

Getting through this ND scare makes me feel better. I've always been of the belief that we need 2-3 more years to establish ourselves as a commodity and non dumpster fire of the past. Even if Freeman flops or day moves on in a couple. We should be through that period and maybe have the conference stuff a little more known.

 

[isucy86]

USC was a fixer upper with countless advantages over UVA. And fairly certain Campbell doesn’t consider his job at ISU to be finished. If he wants to boost his resume more, he can do it here by stringing together more 9+ win seasons, beating Iowa, winning a conference championship, etc. I’m also not his resume needs more boosting given the rumors from this recent coaching carousel. If he leaves for a job like UVA, he’s desperate to get out of Ames.

Leaving ISU will NEVER be an act of desperation for Matt Campbell. Whether it's UVA, Indiana, North Carolina, Kentucky, etc, etc. He will take the job because it makes the most sense for his family and him professionally.

I would love Matt Campbell to be at ISU the next 3-5 year window. I just think it's equally possible he jumps to another fixer upper program instead of waiting on one of his preferred blue blood programs opening up again.

Why did Campbell turn down LSU, USC or UW? Only he knows. Was he anticipating ND or OSU opening in the next 2-3 years? We're they bad fits for the environment he wants to raise his family?

A school like UVA could make sense. Great college. College town +. Virginia produces a solid number of D1 football players. The ACC could be in flux. Clemson might be returning to it's historical norm. FSU and Miami are down. Mack Brown might have peaked UNC.

Plus Virginia plays ND every few years as part of it's ACC rotation.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Right now ISU has the 24th best class in the nation for '22, 3rd in the Big 12, and 1st in the new big12.

Underrated note if the CFP expansion actually gets figured out within the next year. ISU is capable of bringing in the best talent in a conference with (potentially) guaranteed CFP access. That is much more attractive than pre-realignment ISU. Which is a bit counterintuitive but is very good for ISU.

When the CFP expands, in the new Big 12, ISU will have a very real shot at making the CFP and that means you can win here. You can make the CFP here more easily than at many other P5 schools. Never could have said that when Campbell started.

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

 

[IsUaClone2]

I doubt he’s at all limited at Iowa stste with his faith.

I'd disagree to a point. I agree that Campbell's expression of faith would not be limited in the athletic department under Pollard but I recall the brouhaha the school administration gave the AD when Chizek wanted to hire a chaplain for the football program. Iirc, an openly avowed atheist religious studies professor (later to become department head, I think) campaigned successfully against the position and job title. The result was they ended up with "counselor" and restrictions on directions within the conversations that the counselor could initiate.

I don't know a lot about what's since then but I do know that when the football team comes on the field for a game they go beyond the bench where the coaches stop, then huddle for a player-led prayer before returning to the bench area.

 

[AuH2O]

Getting through this ND scare makes me feel better. I've always been of the belief that we need 2-3 more years to establish ourselves as a commodity and non dumpster fire of the past. Even if Freeman flops or day moves on in a couple. We should be through that period and maybe have the conference stuff a little more known.

Yep, the next three years are huge for both ISU AND Campbell. Next year is going to be a rebuild to an extent. If ISU is good in 2023 and 2024 it proves ISU and Campbell can sustain good programs.

 

[ISUcyclones11]

Only thing interesting on flight tracker for OUN today is a PJ going to Nashville and back

 

[ISUTex]

Notre Dame got their man, and I dont blame CMC for wanting to go there, not being able to incorporate his Faith fully into his coaching would be very frustrating.

Notre Dame is going to be better without Kelly IMO. This Freeman guy is going to get better overall talent, and get them to run through walls. Great fit, just like CMC is a great fit for ISU.

 

[AuH2O]

If I am CMC and wanted to leave ISU Id personally go Nebraska. That is the job with the highest upside. Big Ten East and SEC are just no go, too stiff of competition, being a really good coach only gets you so far, the ACC and Pac 12 being stuck on the coasts isnt that appealing. Makes me wonder if we can dodge Nebraska opening next year ISU might be a decent place for him to stick around, all depends on his family situation though is my guess, I do think CMC is a bit frustrated with his ability to recruit at Iowa St., just a darn uphill climb no matter how good of a coach he is.

Interesting that CMC Dad was in a similar postion on the high school level with a dominate team in the same city that apparently recruited pretty heavily, granted Iowa isnt dominant but they are darn consistent, Ferentz has been a heck of a coach for them.

I know you would laugh but if college football doesnt get its house in order by going decentralized I could see CMC walking away and going FCS, like a Brookings or a Youngstown. Seems like it would be a good place if you are just interested in the mentor and football strategy aspect.

So much depends on his immediate family on all this, especially when kids are young, as a parent with young kids I can tell you no career or geographical moves are happening in my house till kids are older.

No. And when I was a kid in the 90s I remember old people talking about Navy being a national power 30 years ago. You may as well have been talking about the 1800s.

Those of us that remember Nebraska being a national power need to first realize that all the advantages Osborne used are gone and are never coming back. We also need to understand that kids being recruited now have no memories of Nebraska being a national power.
Nebraska’s ceiling now is Iowa, maybe Wisconsin.

 

[tolfbfan]

Leaving ISU will NEVER be an act of desperation for Matt Campbell. Whether it's UVA, Indiana, North Carolina, Kentucky, etc, etc. He will take the job because it makes the most sense for his family and him professionally.

I would love Matt Campbell to be at ISU the next 3-5 year window. I just think it's equally possible he jumps to another fixer upper program instead of waiting on one of his preferred blue blood programs opening up again.

Why did Campbell turn down LSU, USC or UW? Only he knows. Was he anticipating ND or OSU opening in the next 2-3 years? We're they bad fits for the environment he wants to raise his family?

A school like UVA could make sense. Great college. College town +. Virginia produces a solid number of D1 football players. The ACC could be in flux. Clemson might be returning to it's historical norm. FSU and Miami are down. Mack Brown might have peaked UNC.

Plus Virginia plays ND every few years as part of it's ACC rotation.

I do not think CMC sits around each year and anticipates potential opens. When an opening occurs I think in short order he knows if it is of interest or not. Do I think he takes calls? Yes, just to get better at this aspect of the business. Do I think he is always willing to take the job. No.

 

[ISUcyclones11]

No. And when I was a kid in the 90s I remember old people talking about Navy being a national power 30 years ago. You may as well have been talking about the 1800s.

Those of us that remember Nebraska being a national power need to first realize that all the advantages Osborne used are gone and are never coming back. We also need to understand that kids being recruited now have no memories of Nebraska being a national power.
Nebraska’s ceiling now is Iowa, maybe Wisconsin.

yep, they have not recruited anywhere near championship level for a long time. They benefitted from a week B12 North division and then went and cut off their own Texas pipeline when they move to the B1G.

They have a big stadium and a rabid fanbase that's about all they have going for them.

 

[AuH2O]

yep, they have not recruited anywhere near championship level for a long time. They benefitted from a week B12 North division and then went and cut off their own Texas pipeline when they move to the B1G.

They have a big stadium and a rabid fanbase that's about all they have going for them.

Other than this incoming class next year their recruiting hasn't really dropped off from the Pelini Big 12 days. I don't really buy the Big 10 move hurt recruiting. It changed it, but it didn't get worse. So on the bright side I think they can maintain top 25ish type classes, but I agree that it's going to be REALLY tough to get much better than that.

 

[everyyard]

I do not think CMC sits around each year and anticipates potential opens. When an opening occurs I think in short order he knows if it is of interest or not. Do I think he takes calls? Yes, just to get better at this aspect of the business. Do I think he is always willing to take the job. No.

Of course he is taking his calls. It would get out pretty quickly in AD circles that Campbell isn’t taking calls and he wouldn’t come out on everyone’s list. The face that all these schools can leak him as a candidate implies he is at least listening to some of them.

 

[Cyclonick182]

9pm?! That's gonna be a no for me dawg; I'm going straight to the adoption portal!" Lol

 

[ianoconnor]

9pm?! That's gonna be a no for me dawg; I'm going straight to the adoption portal!" Lol

My favorite part is when it pans to the wife and she flips him off with her ring finger.

 

[CycloneDaddy]

9pm?! That's gonna be a no for me dawg; I'm going straight to the adoption portal!" Lol

For sure the best part was the adoption portal.

 

[brett108]

yep, they have not recruited anywhere near championship level for a long time. They benefitted from a week B12 North division and then went and cut off their own Texas pipeline when they move to the B1G.

They have a big stadium and a rabid fanbase that's about all they have going for them.

Don't forget about the low population state to recruit. They are the only destination in NE for football. That matters right?