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2speedy1 said:
Thinking anyone is going to make decisions today for 15 years in the future is unrealistic. Its hard for these things to be decided for 2 years from now, because no one can predict how drastically things may change over a few years. Let alone a decade or more.

I think we all know that OuT have always said they will stay 2 more years just as a negotiating tactic to limit their amount of buy out of the remaining GOR, with the probability of them settling and exiting earlier. But with the intention that they could do either play out the remaining contract or pay, whichever they see as the most beneficial. But you can not do this with 15 year length of time, it just doesnt work.

But this is different than trying to predict 15 years in the future and also trying to bargain with that type of length. 1-2 years is not hard, especially when in many cases these GORs are renegotiated 1-2 years before the end of the current 1. Also, the time and money currently involved allows them to really pick the best option, (settle or not) not guess what might happen in the distant future.

None of these conferences or schools are going to make a guess on what might be the situation in 15 years and where the system might be, and hope that their current knowledge gives them the insight to pick what will be best for them in that future. Sure they make decisions today that affects their future, but those decisions are constantly in flux and adjusted as situation and knowledge change. You are not going to make a decision today that you wont realize the results of for 15 years.

That would be like betting your house today, on who is going to be the college National champion in 2036, who they are going to play, what the final score will be, and what the playoff system will be.

I mean look at some of the decisions from a decade ago, I think we all know some of those decisions would not have been made if they knew then what they do now. Can you imagine those same decisions being made then but not going into effect until now? It would be a disaster.

There were other points made that if enough teams are removed then does the ACC still remain or do they dissolve the conference...there were talks of this with the Big 12.

I believe this played out here. Unless every team has a place to go there will always be a conference, regardless of the voting, whether it needs a majority or super majority or whatever. Because as you saw in the Big 12 the majority of voting members changed immediately as soon as OuT announced they were leaving. They lost their voting privileges and the majority changed. As long as there are still members they will vote to remove the leaving members voting rights and they will be able to continue the conference. And as you see in the Big 12 if they add schools there is still a conference to pay, even if one of the OG schools are still there, the conference entity still would survive, and hold the contract.

In reality it usually takes a year plus for a school to move conferences because so many schedules and other things are already set. So being we are talking 1-2 years is not a major deal. And when you are talking about 3 conferences media deals coming due in under 3 years, all of those are going to be negotiated in the next 1-2 years, we are in prime time for more movement. No matter what anyone says, the ACC may ADD, especially if they can get a bump to their deal, but I dont see anyone adding FROM them this round.
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And the thing about Clemson is that it's not like they are some recession-proof football factory that has any higher certainty of success post-Dabo than most programs. Prior to Dabo you have to go back to over 30 years ago (1990) since their last 10 win season. It's important to note that the current era of Clemson football is BY FAR their most successful ever. Their reality is that even currently being a national power, they aren't nearly the TV draw that they should be. In 15 years I don't think you can say with any level of confidence that Clemson will be better or worse than say UNC, Virginia or FSU. For the 15 or so years prior to Dabo they were basically a 7-5 type of team with some better, some worse.
 
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I'm hearing a couple of the Dakota schools. Gives them travel partners and sets up the 4 team western pod.
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Heard that too. Also heard Buffalo and UCONN, both AAU, to help set up the far Eastern pod with Rutgers and Maryland. Big 10 wants to move fast to avoid ACC grabbing them.
 
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HouClone said:
Heard that too. Also heard Buffalo and UCONN, both AAU, to help set up the far Eastern pod with Rutgers and Maryland. Big 10 wants to move fast to avoid ACC grabbing them.
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I hear you, but the B1G is also considering adding the Toronto Argonauts from the CFL to capture the Canadian market.

With NIL and pay to play this is becoming a reality. Everything is totally up in the air as well as Big Ten Europe.
 
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Nothing ground breaking, or unexpected. But the other day TCU’s AD said there will certainly be more conference realignment as conferences renegotiate media contracts. It’s not over yet.
 
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RustShack said:
Nothing ground breaking, or unexpected. But the other day TCU’s AD said there will certainly be more conference realignment as conferences renegotiate media contracts. It’s not over yet.
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RustShack said:
Nothing ground breaking, or unexpected. But the other day TCU’s AD said there will certainly be more conference realignment as conferences renegotiate media contracts. It’s not over yet.
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Big ten media ends in 2023 right? Are people expecting this summer as when we will know or not?
 
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isucy86 said:
Big 10 TV deal ends 2022/23 school year.

Followed by Pac12 2023/24 and then Big12 2024/25.
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But hasn't the Big10 already signed their next deal? I don't see the Big10 having that much impact as we already know it'll be big.

The PAC deal and the new Big12 deal are the ones that will determine if realignment is done.
 
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Clonehomer said:
But hasn't the Big10 already signed their next deal? I don't see the Big10 having that much impact as we already know it'll be big.

The PAC deal and the new Big12 deal are the ones that will determine if realignment is done.
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Negative.
 
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Clonehomer said:
But hasn't the Big10 already signed their next deal? I don't see the Big10 having that much impact as we already know it'll be big.

The PAC deal and the new Big12 deal are the ones that will determine if realignment is done.
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I haven't heard that the Big10 has signed their new deal. But I do agree that they will bust the bank and sign a deal similar to the SEC. Probably just a question whether FOX ties up all Big10 media rights or they split with ESPN.

I would be curious if the Pac12 or Big12 have started negotiations- especially the Pac 12. Gotta believe the top Pac12 programs might be willing to shake things up if they get offers they consider too low vs. Big 10 and SEC.
 
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cyclonefan2016 said:
Big ten media ends in 2023 right? Are people expecting this summer as when we will know or not?
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BillBrasky4Cy said:
I believe it's 2025.
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isucy86 said:
Big 10 TV deal ends 2022/23 school year.

Followed by Pac12 2023/24 and then Big12 2024/25.
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Clonehomer said:
But hasn't the Big10 already signed their next deal? I don't see the Big10 having that much impact as we already know it'll be big.

The PAC deal and the new Big12 deal are the ones that will determine if realignment is done.
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Easier to add during your own deal than take a away a team already locked into a Grant of Rights.

If B1G realignment happens it would be going into '25. Highly doubt they would want to pay KU/ISU buyouts.
 
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