Isheem Young enters transfer portal

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There was a brief time where ISU included your ACT score on your student info that instructors would access on our class roster. Some of us asked a lot of questions why that needed to be there. We got answers like "Well, it could help you shape your discussion questions or assessments or responses to students," like anyone should be looking at your ACT score while grading or discussing with you.

That disappeared the same semester I learned of it. I think admins either got tired of the questions or finally noticed that it could be a privacy problem.
 

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This is a common problem. Many students coming to college with no study skills. E en high achievers and when they struggle (however the student defines struggle) it can be mentally damaging. ISU created Psy 131 Study Strategies for that reason to help students learn how to study. I encourage every new freshman I work with to take the class. Best begin on the right foot.

Part of the problem is a lot of high school classes are designed to be easy and unchallenging. That way, no complaints from kids or worse, parents, about why little Timmy or Tammy is struggling. Even AP classes sometimes, just not learning a lot, or not enough to challenge. So reasonably smart kids coast and think they are awesome, and then when they are challenged (ref: weed out course thread) they flip out.

People protect their kids too much, when they should be preparing them. That goes for school/work as much as it does self-defense.
 

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Remember how disastrous the merit scholar program was? Imagine designing a scholarship program around the pSAT, and expecting great results. My understanding is that they barely averaged above the total of ISU students in GPA. And I love that OU still brags about their total amount of merit scholars.

I am confused as to why this program was a disaster?

I was a NMS, it paid for my tuition. I was the outstanding senior in Aerospace Engineering, had a 3.91 GPA, and graduated in 4 years.

There were 2 other NMS from my high school class of 80. One is sort of an author/creative type with probably 5 degrees, the other is a WSOP competitor who is now a VP at a local bank. My sister was also a NMS. She got a masters in Economics, which I think we can count as a win as well. Seems like it did a good job finding smart people. At least, in 1990 it did.

I get that is anecdotal evidence, based on 4 people I happen to know from 1 high school. But if GPA is your point, maybe NMS were disproportionately represented in engineering and sciences? Especially at ISU. Is there an article about this somewhere?
 

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Used to be tuition plus room and board for all National Merit Finalists. Now it's tuition only, and only for in-state students.
No true. Granddaughter got everything plus $25,000 stipend. Depends on other factors.
Her dad was a NMS that never made honor roll in HS.
 
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Duh!
Is someone going to start a new thread if there’s news on Isheem Young? No one gives a **** about your high school academic prowess.
What do you think Isheem got on his ACT and what was is HS gpa? Trying to bring this full circle.
 
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Part of the problem is a lot of high school classes are designed to be easy and unchallenging. That way, no complaints from kids or worse, parents, about why little Timmy or Tammy is struggling. Even AP classes sometimes, just not learning a lot, or not enough to challenge. So reasonably smart kids coast and think they are awesome, and then when they are challenged (ref: weed out course thread) they flip out.

People protect their kids too much, when they should be preparing them. That goes for school/work as much as it does self-defense.

There's also an imposter syndrome which confronts gifted kids who found everything easy before, even if it was actually difficult for most. That creates a huge barrier to overcome.

Others are extreme perfectionists. I broke someone with a B- once. It was a long final 6 weeks of constant attention, discussion, and waiting for them to see that the #s did actually indicate they would ace the course. There's a lot more going on than the lazy option you threw out there.
 
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Also ACT and SAT have been under a lot of scrutiny for being a measure of child/family resources more than being a true academic/intelligence measure. Some kids are able to take the test with just the basic prep provided - info sessions, a free practice test or two, and they’ve retained a lot of info from school - and score in the 30s. But a lot of kids scoring in the upper ranges are taking tests multiple times ($$) and/or are paying for weekly private prep sessions (can be a couple thousand $$$). And if you don’t live in an area that provides these services or emphasizes a need to do well on these tests, it’s even harder for kids to do well on them. It’s been a few years since I frequented academic forums but I recall this being a huge topic of research and discussion in the admissions world.
COVID forced many colleges across the country (including Iowa's 3 Regent universities) to switch to a test optional admission policy. There's little question that when the pandemic finally subsides, the vast majority of these colleges (including Iowa's 3 Regent universities) won't be switching back to requiring test scores for admission.
 

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So, he's transferring because he doesn't like the grading system at ISU? Sorry, I've missed some pages.

Judging from some of my classes I didn't like the grading system either.

ACT 25
In major GPA 3.4
Overall GPA..... let's skip that.

I'll be in the portal if anyone needs me