*** Official IOWA STATE vs #19 Clemson Cheez-It Bowl Game(Day) Thread ***

Didley

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Is the backwards interception in the flat the end of half scoop/score at Oklahoma? I did not see that happen, but heard about it.
The feet first slide 3 yards short of a first down against Notre Dame is still one of those wierd Brock plays.
Pretty sure he’s referring to the TCU game last year. It was probably intentional grounding, a fumble due to being a lateral, and an interception all in one brain fart. Epic. 2:16 in this video.

 

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No new gig, just going to spend Football Saturdays as a fan with my two little guys at Jack Trice. Will still be doing podcasts and writing here at CF and doing basketball games on ESPN+. Nothing too crazy beyond that! Thanks for the kind words.
So glad you're continuing to announce basketball. You have a bright future in that role.
 

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I think the epitaph of this game was that it was the same game we played in the 4 conference losses. The team loves to play from behind, and to feed off the adrenaline that provides. The 5 quarter game plan keeps us in our seats for sure, but, if this team is to compete for conference titles, offensive game planning must improve to eliminate the slow starts.
 

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Are you saying add value to a meaningless season?
I'm saying playoffs rule and bowl seasons drool. I'm saying bracketology beats a one game exhibition season.
UNI went 6-6, including 4-4 in the MVFC (the SEC of the FCS). But they got a seat at the table as one of 24 teams that made the playoff. Way better than the Coca-Cola bowl if you go back that far.
 

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Two things can be true about last night's game and the overall season. Clemson has a great defense and that should be known to everyone. Tom Manning is also not the guy. I want to trust Campbell to make the right staffing changes in the off-season but I feel like he's really buddy buddy with his coaches.
 
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This just in: The Clemson defense is really good and the secondary is elite. That’s a lot to battle when you don’t have more than one speedy downfield threat and elite protection.Brock is one tough kid.

Middle of the field was open on the dump off in some big downs.

He got it a couple of times at least for positive yardage.
 

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I don't think last night was a Manning issue. It was more Purdy's turnovers. Without those, ISU wins the game.
a combination of both. Brock by no means had a great game at all, but Manning/Campbell put the entire team in horrible situations. It's baffling to me that our players/the coaching staff use entire play clocks and don't know what they're doing. That shows me, a lack of preparation. And this team can't run a 2 minute drill to save their lives. The burning of the timeouts because of our ineptitude to get the play call in and run it efficiently, combined with the clock management, was atrocious
 

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The Clemson QB has the lowest QBR in the ACC. That’s behind the likes of Boston College, Duke, Virginia, ETC. He could not throw the ball over 10 yards. He could not throw to anyone past the 1st read. It was very Telling on the first drive when Clemson called a QB draw on 3rd and 7 (don’t remember the exact yardage).

I think the defense played very solid but wish we would’ve played more aggressively at the Line of Scrimmage because that QB could not win the game for them.
 
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Wait you don’t mean draftable players right? There is no way there are 8 players on this team that are going to be drafted. Maybe 8 will make the league eventually but if the whole team was eligible to be drafted, we still wouldn’t have 8 right now.
No not drafted this year. But there are at least 8 that will make NFL rosters at some point, including the underclassmen.
 
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It just sucks that the last image we’ll have of Cyclone Football for the best 9 months until the 2022 season is that Purdy fumble.
If that's how you want to remember it fine. Similar maybe to the last minute of the Big12 championship game vs. OU last year? Keep in mind he was one of the reasons we were in both of these games. And the last minute of each game in these examples were not why we lost.
 

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I was at that game too, it was good. I was also in Manhattan and Boulder that year and the UConn game. Do I even need to keep going.
I appreciate the try. I do. :) It's just that with some trying to point out their selective memory or obsessive rationale is probably a waste of time.

Still I commend the effort.
 

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If that's how you want to remember it fine. Similar maybe to the last minute of the Big12 championship game vs. OU last year? Keep in mind he was one of the reasons we were in both of these games. And the last minute of each game in these examples were not why we lost.
At least last year, we had an NY6 victory to kind of negate the Big12 Championship loss to finish out the season.
 

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Purdy's last play was just like the entire season, and most of his career. Scramble for the first down, and the then fumble the ball and lose the first down that you just picked up.

Overall it looked like ISU was playing scared, did not open up the offense, too many pass plays that did not go down field, so we never backed up the Clemson secondary. Clemson got away with quite a few holding that was just not called.
 
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Two things can be true about last night's game and the overall season. Clemson has a great defense and that should be known to everyone. Tom Manning is also not the guy. I want to trust Campbell to make the right staffing changes in the off-season but I feel like he's really buddy buddy with his coaches.
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Two things can be true about last night's game and the overall season. Clemson has a great defense and that should be known to everyone. Tom Manning is also not the guy. I want to trust Campbell to make the right staffing changes in the off-season but I feel like he's really buddy buddy with his coaches.
This is not a dig at your comment. I’m not here to attack or defend Manning. Just an honest question. Maybe it has already been covered elsewhere.

If Manning is as bad as some contend, how is it that Iowa State’s scoring average was 31.3 points/game. (#44 of 120 fbs teams). In conference games ISU’s offense averaged 34.8 points, or #2 behind Okla‘s 35.8.

In total offensive yards, ISU was 424 yards, or #49 of 120 fbs teams. Within conference games, ISU generated 454 yards or #1 in the conference.

I think I have the stats correct. If correct, why is Manning considered deficient? What are the expectations….top 25 nationally and #1 within the conference? I agree some play calls are head scratchers (all OC have them). But, in looking at the big picture he must be doing something right. I know Campbell is about process. I’m more interested in results. It seems Manning is achieving scoring and offensive yardage results seldom achieved at ISU.…certainly above average nationally. If we lose Manning, there seems a greater risk the offense results will deteriorate than improve.