Officiating travesty in Lawrence

[Ayagi]

There were more than two. Two dreadful charges called on KU in the first half among them.

Refs suck in every sport at every level. I agree that the goaltending call was a big miss. Would have changed what KU had to do down the stretch. The flagrant was the right call. It was the textbook definitely idiot of what a flagrant foul is. I dont like that definition but it was correct according to it.

Go **** yourself, hoser.

 

[CyBobby]

I am jsut beside myself how the flagrant on Jones gets called. Why is this league so desperate to protect these bastards? Why?

Because when it comes to Mens BBall...The Big 8 & Then the Big 12 does everything it can to protect the Jaysquawks Home Advantage!!

 

[cayin]

That was a crap call but is only 2nd to one of the worst mistakes ever in this rivalry:



When Wayne Morgan is dropping 4 letter curse words you know it was bad because Wayne barely had a pulse at times with his sideline demeanor.

The commentators said they did a good job of officiating. wow, how bad are these guys? They also gave KU a 3 pointer but the KU shooter had a foot on the line in a game that went to overtime. In regulation, they gave KU 4 extra points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[IcSyU]

How can 3 refs miss a call like the goal tending, you could see the ball was on its down arc, even if they could not see that it had already hit the backboard.
Anytime a player looks like he "lifted the ball" when he blocks it, it's almost always a goal tending and that is exactly what it looked like. The KU players hand was on the side to the bottom of the ball, not on the top, like when a shot is normally blocked.

Easily actually. The call is the trail or center official's call to make. If the mechanics are being done correctly the lead official under the basket is not ball watching and is watching for contact. It's damn near impossible for the lead official to make the call because the glass is in the way.

The center or trail official on the side of the floor the drive starts on technically has the glass covered. The call is easier to make from the official's POV if you can hear the ball off the glass (no way they could last night) but otherwise the bang bang plays are tough calls to make. Now my opinion would be the way to correctly officiate it is to call it so you can review similar to siding with turnovers in the NFL so they're automatically reviewed.

The trail or center where the drive didn't start should be watching away from the ball so they shouldn't really be involved in the call.

 

[JM4CY]

The fat old ref needs to call it a day. Tom Eaves?

Tom Eades is an arrogant twat. He has been for years. He gets off on all of this.

 

[CYDJ]

Easily actually. The call is the trail or center official's call to make. If the mechanics are being done correctly the lead official under the basket is not ball watching and is watching for contact. It's damn near impossible for the lead official to make the call because the glass is in the way.

The center or trail official on the side of the floor the drive starts on technically has the glass covered. The call is easier to make from the official's POV if you can hear the ball off the glass (no way they could last night) but otherwise the bang bang plays are tough calls to make. Now my opinion would be the way to correctly officiate it is to call it so you can review similar to siding with turnovers in the NFL so they're automatically reviewed.

The trail or center where the drive didn't start should be watching away from the ball so they shouldn't really be involved in the call.

Great explanation from someone who understands the refs assignments. Thanks.

Now, let's talk about the stupid part where you can't review it unless it is called. And why something that close and bang bang was not reflexively called by the officials in the first place and then reviewed it necessary.

No way in hell they let us wipe a shot that close too the board on KU.

 

[DeereClone]

I was fine with that call, but the travesty in it is that it wouldn’t be called in the same situation on the other end of the floor.

That’s my main gripe with it. Also the fact that it was a physical game all night with a lot of contact and they chose to call that one in the last minute just irks me.

 

[Heroma]

So we got screwed but by gosh how many free throws, missed shots under the hoop and bad turnovers did we have? We literally threw the ball out of bounds 5 times that game with nobody close. Even the elbow foul would have not happen if we didn’t just lose the ball without much pressure. Make one more bunny, one less turnover and you win. Terrible calls but stop putting your self in that position. Happened in football too.

Really missed opportunity and now Texas is a must win imo

Nailed it

 

[CycloneVet]

There were more than two. Two dreadful charges called on KU in the first half among them.

Refs suck in every sport at every level. I agree that the goaltending call was a big miss. Would have changed what KU had to do down the stretch. The flagrant was the right call. It was the textbook definitely idiot of what a flagrant foul is. I dont like that definition but it was correct according to it.

Get ******

 

[cyclonehomer]

I love that there's multiple Kansas fans showing up, pretending to be ISU fans and telling everyone how much better they are than everyone else because officiating is either so hard or "was bad both ways!"

Maybe you can convince me on subjective calls but that goaltend wasn't ******* subjective.

 

[casey1973]

Looks to me each coach should have 2 red flags they can throw to dispute a foul like the NFL. Lose the challenge lose a time out. That goal tend was more than obvious and just maybe the bias would be reduced and put some pressure on these refs..... Go Cyclones.

 

[VeloClone]

So we got screwed but by gosh how many free throws, missed shots under the hoop and bad turnovers did we have? We literally threw the ball out of bounds 5 times that game with nobody close. Even the elbow foul would have not happen if we didn’t just lose the ball without much pressure. Make one more bunny, one less turnover and you win. Terrible calls but stop putting your self in that position. Happened in football too.

Really missed opportunity and now Texas is a must win imo

You really had me until "must win". They have a ridiculously tough stretch to start the conference season. Just keep playing. Starting to think things like "this is a must win" two weeks into the season is how teams get tight and really start to screw up.

 

[VeloClone]

Tuco is just a jackass. It would be so much better if he were banned permanently. So tired of his pious ********.

He was permabanned. That is why Randomfan is a "different poster".

 

[Clonefan32]

I think my frustration lies mostly in the fact that you go to the monitor and analyze the Jones "flagrant" like it's a god**** video of Bigfoot or something, then you stop the game to see if there is a chance Grill's right big toe may have been hovering over the 3 point line, but you don't have the gumption to blow your whistle, call the goaltend then go to the monitor. This **** isn't complicated and the refs know the rules. You can review it if you blow the whistle and call it, so blow the whistle and call it. Then if it winds up not being a goaltend, what are you really out?

 

[davegilbertson]

Looks to me each coach should have 2 red flags they can throw to dispute a foul like the NFL. Lose the challenge lose a time out. That goal tend was more than obvious and just maybe the bias would be reduced and put some pressure on these refs..... Go Cyclones.

Make the red flags red chairs and I'm with you.

 

[cymac2408]

Didn't they initially call it a 2?

The lady ref had the call of a 3.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Tom Eades is an arrogant twat. He has been for years. He gets off on all of this.

Tom Eades retired 3 years ago. The one he's talking about is Gerry Pollard, who did the Final Four last year.

 

[VeloClone]

The lady ref had the call of a 3.

Interesting. I never saw a call so I assumed it had to be called a 2 since I sure as hell couldn't see a definitive view of it either way. If that view overturned a call of a 3, I would like to see what view was enough to overturn it.

 

[CYDJ]

Nailed it

So, if we would have played better or done what we were supposed to do, we might have a better chance of winning? I agree.

So, if THE OFFICIALS would have OFFICIATED better or done what THEY were supposed to do, we might have a better chance of winning? Agree?

 

[isutrevman]

There were more than two. Two dreadful charges called on KU in the first half among them.

Refs suck in every sport at every level. I agree that the goaltending call was a big miss. Would have changed what KU had to do down the stretch. The flagrant was the right call. It was the textbook definitely idiot of what a flagrant foul is. I dont like that definition but it was correct according to it.

If that was a textbook flagrant foul, why wasn't McCormack's illegal screen on Kalscheur late in the game called a flagrant? He stuck his shoulder out and hit Kalscheur in the face.