*** Official #15 IOWA STATE vs #18 Texas Tech Game(Day) Thread ***

DSM4Cy

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Agreed. Coming in I thought tonight was a Longshot. Time to sweep the rest of our January games and go from there.

Our goal is 7 league wins + Mizzou. Totally doable. We don’t even have to win on the road at all, but it would help us out.
 

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Go back and read the game threads for every conference game. It’s the same complaints every game. It’s time people realize it’s not incompetent refereeing every game. It’s a bad combination of aggressive defense and offense that doesn’t attack that leads to foul discrepancies.
I’m here every game thread. This is not a hill I am willing to die on. Feel free to die on your high horse. As I mentioned before both things can be true at once. We played poorly and the refs also had a bad game. Refs are not why we lost the game, but that doesn’t make it ok for poor officiating to occur.
 

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Im not a ref hater, but certain guys seem to get away with fouls and other guys cant even breathe on a guy and get fouled. Hunter and Gabe get away with fouls somehow. And the refs are always picking on George and Kunc. The refs really hate Kunc.
I don’t believe anyone is picking on George. He is always out of position on defense, overplays the passing lane away from the basketball and gets caught in the middle and then reaches in or somehow looses position under the basketball and then gets out rebounded by someone half his size and goes through them to get the foul. He gets a lot of fouls because he’s always in terrible position.
 

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The refs were terrible but this team doesn't welcome contact at the rim. We don't have much by way of muscle on our team.
Yeah we are kind of soft offensively. Aside from hunter. Brockington has a great mid range jumper but he also possesses the ability to drive and get to the rack. He has been refusing to do that so far in conference play unfortunately
 
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When conference play started it seems most thought going 2-4 would be good based on the posts I read. That's what happened. Can't lose sight of the fact that what is happening is flat out amazing, and we are still on track for the biggest turnaround in college basketball history.
 

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I don’t believe anyone is picking on George. He is always out of position on defense, overplays the passing lane away from the basketball and gets caught in the middle and then reaches in or somehow looses position under the basketball and then gets out rebounded by someone half his size and goes through them to get the foul. He gets a lot of fouls because he’s always in terrible position.
I'm completely with you. I almost never have an issue with the fouls George gets because he, uhhh, really earns them. I love his energy but he's pretty undisciplined out there.
 

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When conference play started it seems most thought going 2-4 would be good based on the posts I read. That's what happened. Can't lose sight of the fact that what is happening is flat out amazing, and we are still on track for the biggest turnaround in college basketball history.
We’ll said. Tonight is also the floor of what can happen when this team gets in foul trouble and can’t hit shots. Good thing there has really only been one of them this year.
 

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Oof. Couldn't watch tonight due to work and glad I didn't. I predicted a 13 point loss and was dang close. I just hate the way TT plays because it's so hard to get in a rhythm...they're great defensively. I want none of them in KC. Glad they're out of our way and that we split with them.

I wanted 2-4 out these first six and that's where we are. Zero complaints. Yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah our offense needs work. THIS IS NOTHING NEW...especially against this defense.

Time to rattle off a string of wins! Go Cyclones!
 
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I'm completely with you. I almost never have an issue with the fouls George gets because he, uhhh, really earns them. I love his energy but he's pretty undisciplined out there.

George is either stubborn and really doesn’t seem to want to change how he plays, or he just has too many bad reps in his system and hasn’t corrected those bad habits yet.
 
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Nope. I think that officials are basically just not held to account when they're bad, and are very easily swung by either crowds or being worked by coaches. Need to be able to talk to them better/ride them more, make it clear you won't let your team get pushed around. I frankly don't know the reason or the solution. Maybe I'm conspiratorial but the wide open landscape of sports betting these days makes me feel like I would have to be naive to assume no official ever has a stake.

Again, it wasn't the deciding factor tonight. Cyclones didn't shoot well enough. Tech played better, Adams clearly has done a great job scouting ISU and knows how to make them uncomfortable on offense.

It's as if people don't understand that officials are subject to the same biases and influences we all are. Where do people think anticipation calls come from? Makeup calls? Ever see a ref make a call that he knows will fire up the home crowd extra emphatically?
 

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Ok, but we weren’t attacking to force those calls.

It's not just about attacking to draw a call.

It's about Kunc and Jones standing still with their arms straight up and being called for fouls without even making contact, while getting hip-checked 3 feet to the side on the other end and no whistle.

It's about certain players and certain teams being allowed to consistently hold, grab, chuck, and check without penalty.

All I want is consistency.
 

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Were there many times ISU got Tech to foul on three point attempts?
Izaiah was getting hit on the arm a ton on his pull up jumpers I noticed. You aren't going to get that call very often though. Surprised he didn't get it at least once
 

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