Officiating travesty in Lawrence

randomfan44

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Bump.

I see you are avoiding my question. Why? The 'why' refers to why you are even on this board?

Why do you persist coming here on a rival's board, to continually discuss and argue with your opponents fanbase? Even to the point of acquiring a new user name after previously being banned from this site?

What drives you?
Not avoiding it, I just have too many alerts to scroll back through them all so I haven't bothered.

I have answered this question a number if times. I enjoy talking college hoops and enjoy the break from the echo chamber of my KU sites from time to time. I like to sample a glimpse of the sport through the lens of passionate fans of the sport who root for another team from time to time..

This season is the least I have been on this site as life in general has been busy.
 

t-noah

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Not avoiding it, I just have too many alerts to scroll back through them all so I haven't bothered.

I have answered this question a number if times. I enjoy talking college hoops and enjoy the break from the echo chamber of my KU sites from time to time. I like to sample a glimpse of the sport through the lens of passionate fans of the sport who root for another team from time to time..

This season is the least I have been on this site as life in general has been busy.
OK.
 

davegilbertson

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Question: Is there anything in the ncaa rule book about not being allowed to touch the ball once it hits the backboard? Because I assumed it wasn't allowed but haven't actually looked at that part of the rule book.

The ball was definitely not over the cylinder and definitely not on the way down. Can someone post the a tual ncaa rules? My kid is pestering me so I can't look them up right now..
It was on the way down. Do better.

You just said the other day it was a clearly missed call/goaltending.
 

VeloClone

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Question: Is there anything in the ncaa rule book about not being allowed to touch the ball once it hits the backboard? Because I assumed it wasn't allowed but haven't actually looked at that part of the rule book.

The ball was definitely not over the cylinder and definitely not on the way down. Can someone post the a tual ncaa rules? My kid is pestering me so I can't look them up right now..
 

cycloneML

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Question: Is there anything in the ncaa rule book about not being allowed to touch the ball once it hits the backboard? Because I assumed it wasn't allowed but haven't actually looked at that part of the rule book.

The ball was definitely not over the cylinder and definitely not on the way down. Can someone post the a tual ncaa rules? My kid is pestering me so I can't look them up right now..
Bud it was on the way down
 

singsing

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Question: Is there anything in the ncaa rule book about not being allowed to touch the ball once it hits the backboard? Because I assumed it wasn't allowed but haven't actually looked at that part of the rule book.

The ball was definitely not over the cylinder and definitely not on the way down. Can someone post the a tual ncaa rules? My kid is pestering me so I can't look them up right now..
Sounds to me you don't have a clue but keep messaging. Tell your kid that's the way people do things in Kansas. Ignore the rules and any evidence and think what you want.
 
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That is pretty much text book goaltending. Entire ball above the level of the ring, contacts the backboard and then is touched by the defensive player.

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Pictures too blurry, can’t even see where the ring is, ball may have been below it and still moving up, it’s JFK’s “magic basketball” :jimlad:
 

t-noah

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That is pretty much text book goaltending. Entire ball above the level of the ring, contacts the backboard and then is touched by the defensive player.

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Pictures too blurry, can’t even see where the ring is, ball may have been below it and still moving up, it’s JFK’s “magic basketball” :jimlad:
But it was definitely not coming down, and it all happened so fast, and rule 100 says you can't review it so there, and your guys were setting moving screens all night, And you know, we are Kansas! It's righteous.
 

clonehome

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Eventually KU had never gotten a break from a call. This guy has dozens of posts defending the phantom 3.
To answer Tuco’s question, I’ve been watching college basketball for over 40 years and that is goaltending 100 times out of 100. You touch the ball after it hits the backboard and it’s automatic. Unless you are in Phog Allen late in a game where two points for the opposing team will severely harm Kansas’ chance at winning.

Btw, did anyone see the picture where Grill’s foot was clearly behind the line? So the refs took 3 points off the board in the final 2 minutes and gave the game to Kansas. Then I didn’t see it but my brothers said that last night KU was down 3 late in the game and dribbled it out of bounds but the refs incorrectly said OU tipped it. Of course KU hits a 3 to tie it and goes on to win. I will give them credit for being opportunistic but my God do Big 12 officials bestow gifts on them. If Kansas goes on to win the conference in a tight race you can put another asterisk next to this one. It’s been that way all 40+ years that I’ve been watching.
 
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To answer Tuco’s question, I’ve been watching college basketball for over 40 years and that is goaltending 100 times out of 100. You touch the ball after it hits the backboard and it’s automatic. Unless you are in Phog Allen late in a game where two points for the opposing team will severely harm Kansas’ chance at winning.

Btw, did anyone see the picture where Grill’s foot was clearly behind the line? So the refs took 3 points off the board in the final 2 minutes and gave the game to Kansas. Then I didn’t see it but my brothers said that last night KU was down 3 late in the game and dribbled it out of bounds but the refs incorrectly said OU tipped it. Of course KU hits a 3 to tie it and goes on to win. I will give them credit for being opportunistic but my God do Big 12 officials bestow gifts on them. If Kansas goes on to win the conference in a tight race you can put another asterisk next to this one. It’s been that way all 40+ years that I’ve been watching.
Interestingly, I saw the same crew miss the same kind of goaltend in the next Big 12 game they did. I think it was one of the Baylor losses but can't be too sure.
 

ChampFantana

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I get what you're saying, but.......
They played well enough to deserve the win.
The O's didn't allow them to win.

Random completely wrong calls late in a game always go KU's way.
Here’s why it seems like KU “always” gets the benefit of late game refereeing errors: when it happens they still generally win.

Yesterday’s game in Manhattan is the perfect example. KU is down 3 with 50 seconds left. Agbaji goes up for 3 (well behind the line) and is fouled when the K-State player makes contact with Agbaji’s feet on the way down. A foul is rightly called because Agbaji wasn’t allowed to safely land from the jump shot. But instead of getting 3 FT’s, he only gets 2. Why? Because the refs say that it wasn’t a shooting foul which was clearly the wrong call. Instead of the game being tied, KU is still down one. But then KU gets a stop, scores on the next possession and goes on to win.

Now imagine that same scenario with ISU in KU’s place and ISU loses the game. You’d still be talking about it 20 years from now. But since KU won, you probably aren’t even aware that there was a bad call that went against KU.
 

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Here’s why it seems like KU “always” gets the benefit of late game refereeing errors: when it happens they still generally win.

Yesterday’s game in Manhattan is the perfect example. KU is down 3 with 50 seconds left. Agbaji goes up for 3 (well behind the line) and is fouled when the K-State player makes contact with Agbaji’s feet on the way down. A foul is rightly called because Agbaji wasn’t allowed to safely land from the jump shot. But instead of getting 3 FT’s, he only gets 2. Why? Because the refs say that it wasn’t a shooting foul which was clearly the wrong call. Instead of the game being tied, KU is still down one. But then KU gets a stop, scores on the next possession and goes on to win.

Now imagine that same scenario with ISU in KU’s place and ISU loses the game. You’d still be talking about it 20 years from now. But since KU won, you probably aren’t even aware that there was a bad call that went against KU.
Who gives a ****.
 

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Here’s why it seems like KU “always” gets the benefit of late game refereeing errors: when it happens they still generally win.

Yesterday’s game in Manhattan is the perfect example. KU is down 3 with 50 seconds left. Agbaji goes up for 3 (well behind the line) and is fouled when the K-State player makes contact with Agbaji’s feet on the way down. A foul is rightly called because Agbaji wasn’t allowed to safely land from the jump shot. But instead of getting 3 FT’s, he only gets 2. Why? Because the refs say that it wasn’t a shooting foul which was clearly the wrong call. Instead of the game being tied, KU is still down one. But then KU gets a stop, scores on the next possession and goes on to win.

Now imagine that same scenario with ISU in KU’s place and ISU loses the game. You’d still be talking about it 20 years from now. But since KU won, you probably aren’t even aware that there was a bad call that went against KU.

Who is Agbaji ??
 

ChampFantana

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Well there’s the other reason you guys feel that KU never gets bad calls late in the game. When it happens you don’t “give a ****” so you don’t remember. When you identify as a victim you’ll only pay attention to the events that support your victimhood and completely disregard the ones that don’t.
 

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Here’s why it seems like KU “always” gets the benefit of late game refereeing errors: when it happens they still generally win.

Yesterday’s game in Manhattan is the perfect example. KU is down 3 with 50 seconds left. Agbaji goes up for 3 (well behind the line) and is fouled when the K-State player makes contact with Agbaji’s feet on the way down. A foul is rightly called because Agbaji wasn’t allowed to safely land from the jump shot. But instead of getting 3 FT’s, he only gets 2. Why? Because the refs say that it wasn’t a shooting foul which was clearly the wrong call. Instead of the game being tied, KU is still down one. But then KU gets a stop, scores on the next possession and goes on to win.

Now imagine that same scenario with ISU in KU’s place and ISU loses the game. You’d still be talking about it 20 years from now. But since KU won, you probably aren’t even aware that there was a bad call that went against KU.

Did KSU score any 3s during halftime?

STFU
 

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