Happy they're in the NCAA Tourney, and hope we don't see a repeat of last night's performance once there. That would be unbearable in a state full of Hawk fans who will most likely see their team roll their first opponent.
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Disagree with that part. Booing has helped the football team in the past (see OSU game this year). I have seen it with the bball team too, just not here.
It went on too long. All that does is justify the negativity that's in the player's heads in that moment and snowballs it worse. Maybe a couple possessions but when they're booing for 5 to 10 minutes the players start to wonder if they really are being screwed instead of actually competing beyond it. In football at least you get time between plays to collect yourself in basketball you can go several possessions without a break.
Is rebounding not part of the defensive game? No one gets boards on this team. Kalsheur specifically is like a black hole on the stat sheet. The only thing he fills are fouls and minutes. It’s baffling.
21,22, and 23 are all marginal but we have to play at least one of them. The team is who their record says they are, which is a lot better than last year and better than a lot of other years. It'll be fun to see how we do in the tournaments and if we can see another jump up next year.
Great post. I’m assuming you are above the age of forty to remember Johnny’s teams, and you’re dead on. I used to just cringe with Orr’s teams on the road or at a neutral site because there was a 90% they’d lose. Hate to say it, but Orr and Hoiberg’s teams played very weak defense—obviously that got ramped up when the magic at home was underway. You look at Hoiberg’s team at Nebraska, again the defense is underwhelming.
You could very well make the case that TJ’s team is the best defensively in the history and I probably wouldn’t argue with you. Eustachy and Floyd’s got after it well on that end too though.
Teams that play pesky defensive generally do well in March. Time will tell.
Being a 10 or an 11 is much better than being an 8 or a 9. Much easier to advance to the Sweet 16.
And ISU seems to lose most of the rock fight games with a big collapse at the end.
To be honest, I think a 7-10 range in the dance would do this team good. Many games we play to level of competition. I’m sure everyone has heard that before and it’s a relative term to describe past Cyclone teams. The only team I remember just thrashing non-competitive opponents was Larry Eustachy’s 2000 squad that eventually went to the elite-eight and lost to Michigan State. After saying this, could they upend Baylor in Waco? I wouldn’t bet on it but anything can happen.
It was pretty obvious we let everything get to our heads last night. The turnovers, missed shots, and then the refs were the final nail in the coffin. The frustration of turning Oklahoma State over and getting nothing out of it was the source of this issue.
The booing does get a little outrageous. It was a frustrating game and then two horrible calls took it to another level. So while yes, we were booing absolutely atrocious officiating, it was also frustration with the performance.
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Did any of you guys watch the top 16 reveal a couple weeks ago?
Q1 wins are a huge factor, and we're third in the country in Q1 wins. It's clear that the committee is using SOR and Q1-Q2 record as their main factors in seeding. A team like Houston, who is 3rd in NET and 4th on KenPom, wasn't even on the 4 line. We are not falling to the 10 line. Last 10 is not a factor in seeding anymore. Blowouts don't really matter other than how they affect your metrics.
I understand it's easy to overreact and be down on our prospects after that showing, but you're going to be pleasantly surprised on Selection Sunday. I think we're a 7 seed right now and I don't expect us to fall below an 8. Win one and 6 is a possibility. Book it.
That 2000 team let things get a little too comfortable in the first round iirc.
Central Connecticut State??? Game was never in the balance after the tip.. You’re chatting with a pretty dire-hard fan here.
You mean like when they tied it with less than 7 minutes left?
Central Connecticut State C. Conn./Iowa State Iowa State Men's College Basketball recap on ESPN
Central Connecticut State C. Conn./Iowa State Iowa State recap for Thursday March 16, 2000.
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I do believe they closed to within 4 pts briefly in the second half.
I'll try this again. Tied.
Central Connecticut State C. Conn./Iowa State Iowa State Men's College Basketball recap on ESPN
Central Connecticut State C. Conn./Iowa State Iowa State recap for Thursday March 16, 2000.
www.espn.com
At no time did I think the crowd was booing the ISU players. The crowd responded multiple times to defensive effort followed by a score or vice versa and figuring we scored only 36 points, that is a pretty good accomplishment on it's own.
