Official Announcement of TJ as the New Iowa State Mens BBall Coach
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Cyeathawk’s post made me want to dig up some old posts and found this gem @rochclone
Finally, a decent post amidst old grudges and dead horses
To answer this--yeah, we run a weave to burn some clock, and then we try to get to the high post, who will facilitate from there. There are two reasons this is a pretty bad offense: 1) our posts are not very good at facilitating and 2) no one on our offense, sans IB, has very much of an offensive mind. We have had so many turnovers this year where the guy with the ball--no matter who it is, except IB, because we try not to get it to him until we're going to get him the shot--stares down a player who is *clearly* not open, and then, not knowing what else to do, throws it anyway and it gets stolen. Every one of our players does this, because they are not gifted offensively when it comes to improvising, whether they are the one with the ball or the one trying to receive the ball, or someone off ball who could back cut or otherwise lose their defender to pick up the ball.
As an example, when Hunter gets the ball coming over the handoff, Gabe is often WIDE open cutting to the hoop, and he never throws this. I think it's because he's a freshman and that's not the exact look we have been coached to play in practice, so he doesn't throw it. The best we have looked this year is when a player puts their head down and goes to the bucket, because this is the only time there is enough flexibility on the floor that something dynamic might happen. Otherwise one of our guards holds the ball to pass it to the player they're theoretically supposed to pass it to, and the player they're supposed to pass it to just creeps higher and higher toward half court in a bad attempt to get open, and their defender just goes with them and either steals the ball or has them 35 feet from the hoop with 10 seconds left on the clock. We just don't have the guys this year who are gifted at reading what the defense is doing and adjusting, either with or without the ball. Even IB--who I think is the man, to be clear--gets really bad looks he is just good enough to hit most of the time.
It's a bad offense but I have no clue what else we would run with any more success. We just don't have guys who have any ideas offensively. The best we do is when Gabe and Tyrese attack the hoop if for no other reason to kick it out. It would also be great if Tyrese learned to pump fake but I do sincerely appreciate that as a freshman he is going into the trees strong.
Enaruna is probably about the only guy other than IB who can improvise but we lose his minutes to Jaz because sometimes Jaz gets hot behind the line, which we need. If we had been able to pick up someone in the portal who was a combo of those two we would probably have finished 4th in the conference, but that's a tall task to add when you're showing transfers a brand new roster to come into for a team that won 2 games the prior year.
Enaruna is probably about the only guy other than IB who can improvise but we lose his minutes to Jaz because sometimes Jaz gets hot behind the line, which we need. If we had been able to pick up someone in the portal who was a combo of those two we would probably have finished 4th in the conference, but that's a tall task to add when you're showing transfers a brand new roster to come into for a team that won 2 games the prior year.
Good for you............I didn't. I didn't in 2015 and I didn't last year. Not because I don't like TJ, it's because of the appearance of. We don't need the "good ol boy" system at ISU and felt with his short resume ISU could do better.
But TJ has done a fantastic job of mixing the talent.......STEVE PROHM......recruited with his transfers. I have zero issues saying that even though I was against the hire.
You will never find me berating TJ saying it should have been better or in some way qualifying or laying conditions if he ever wins 23 games and makes a sweet 16.........NEVER. I don't care how it's done......that's a good year.
Heck he could do it this year with some of........STEVE PROHM'S....recruits. Does that mean Steve Prohm in someway gets credit..........nope. It's all TJ.
This isn't hard, and you should just come to the conclusion that Prohm had 3 good years.......period. And I think 2017 Stormin would agree. So if you think different now, maybe you need to argue with him.
Process? I care more about getting the right coach for Iowa State. We finally got the Coach we needed in TJ. He can Coach. He can Recruit. Campbell was not a “process” hire either. Great Coaching hire. Prohm is a nice guy. Terrible Coach. It took 6 years to drive us to the absolute bottom of the barrel. Prohm has never built and improved a college program. He inherits what others build and as the former players leave, the program declines. Prohm had a few decent years. But I feel we lost a golden opportunity to get to the next level. Prohm just isn’t the type of coach to improve team play. He just rolls out the balls and hopes the talent level is better of his players. That is apparent after Prohm’s last few seasons.
Thank you for answering this. I think Hunter tries to reach the big when someone tries to set a pick for high post but it only works out if they are at the bucket already when they get the pass and it is a tight window.
@CYEATHAWK
Still laughing at the comment of giving Prohm credit for all the talent he left TJ that has led to TJ’s success. That would be Tre Jackson. George Conditt. Jaden Walker. Quite the foundation there.
Tyrese Hunter was committed under Prohm but could have left since Prohm was fired. TJ got Tyrese to reaffirm his commitment to TJ and the Cyclones. Don’t know how you could really technically call Hunter a Prohm recruit.
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Still laughing at the comment of giving Prohm credit for all the talent he left TJ that has led to TJ’s success. That would be Tre Jackson. George Conditt. Jaden Walker. Quite the foundation there.
Tyrese Hunter was committed under Prohm but could have left since Prohm was fired. TJ got Tyrese to reaffirm his commitment to TJ and the Cyclones. Don’t know how you could really technically call Hunter a Prohm recruit.
Four Star Guard Tyrese Hunter Remains Committed To Iowa State
Another big win for new coach T.J. Otzelberger
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There's no chance you actually believe Prohm wasn't instrumental to Tyrese being a Cyclone right now.@CYEATHAWK
Still laughing at the comment of giving Prohm credit for all the talent he left TJ that has led to TJ’s success. That would be Tre Jackson. George Conditt. Jaden Walker. Quite the foundation there.
Tyrese Hunter was committed under Prohm but could have left since Prohm was fired. TJ got Tyrese to reaffirm his commitment to TJ and the Cyclones. Don’t know how you could really technically call Hunter a Prohm recruit.
Four Star Guard Tyrese Hunter Remains Committed To Iowa State
Another big win for new coach T.J. Otzelberger
Yeah I'm an admitted "Prohm hater", but I'd still consider hunter a Prohm recruit.
Even I can admit he recruited talented players--he just didn't coach them well.
Did Prohm **** your wife? Your hatred feels personal.@CYEATHAWK
Still laughing at the comment of giving Prohm credit for all the talent he left TJ that has led to TJ’s success. That would be Tre Jackson. George Conditt. Jaden Walker. Quite the foundation there.
Tyrese Hunter was committed under Prohm but could have left since Prohm was fired. TJ got Tyrese to reaffirm his commitment to TJ and the Cyclones. Don’t know how you could really technically call Hunter a Prohm recruit.
Four Star Guard Tyrese Hunter Remains Committed To Iowa State
Another big win for new coach T.J. Otzelberger
read the article. Tyrese Hunter reconsidered his commitment after Prohm was fired. TJ is the reason he remained committed.
So you think Tyrese is at Iowa State without having been committed and signing his LOI with Prohm? Obviously I give TJ credit for keeping him committed but come on.
Prohm killed Hilton Magic.
Tyrese obviously loved Iowa State. He is from Wisconsin. Prohm got his original commitment. But Hunter was free to leave when Prohm was fired. Which means that Hunter has to be recruited to keep his commitment. That was all TJ.
Just love the first pages of this thread with the naysayers all hating on TJ. Hating on Pollard. Pollard nailed it. TJ is a great hire.
Hunter is a Prohm recruit because he committed to ISU under Prohm. But the point stands. Not only did TJ have to re-recruit Hunter to at least some extent, he brought in IB, who is our best player by a mile, Gabe, Grill ,Kunc, Enaruna and Jones. That’s fine to give Prohm credit for Hunter and of course the other returnees, but TJ really knocked it out of the park putting together a good roster on short notice coming off a disaster of a year.@CYEATHAWK
Still laughing at the comment of giving Prohm credit for all the talent he left TJ that has led to TJ’s success. That would be Tre Jackson. George Conditt. Jaden Walker. Quite the foundation there.
Tyrese Hunter was committed under Prohm but could have left since Prohm was fired. TJ got Tyrese to reaffirm his commitment to TJ and the Cyclones. Don’t know how you could really technically call Hunter a Prohm recruit.
Four Star Guard Tyrese Hunter Remains Committed To Iowa State
Another big win for new coach T.J. Otzelberger
TJ can flat out recruit, and not just get individual pieces, but pieces that fit well together. As for in game coaching we will find out over the years, but he’s young and will keep getting better.
I wonder where mynameisjonas is tonight. I’m assuming really pissed still over the T.J. hire.
