Bolton Article
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I think both things can be true here too - Bolton might have worn out his welcome here, but I think calling him toxic is absolutely unfair and trash.
Anybody involved in that team last year deserves a pass. Something happened which made everything come off the rails. Admittedly I'd have a crap attitude if I was involved as well. Best of luck to Rasir and I loved watching him play.
I did like the 3 month trial at one point and never used it. The only thing I'd request is that people put that it's an Athletic article in the title so we know we can't read it.
I would certainly hope TJ wouldn’t kick someone off the team because the likes of Conditt, Jackson, and Walker felt he was toxic (Pure skill perspective, who wouldn’t take Bolton over all 3?)
I do buy into the idea that Brockington said he would not come here if Bolton was here. They were teammates at Penn State. Bolton had a vocal exit that likely played part in Brockingtons coach being fired.
I do buy into the idea that Brockington said he would not come here if Bolton was here. They were teammates at Penn State. Bolton had a vocal exit that likely played part in Brockingtons coach being fired.
This is the snippet about Bolton from the article. Only a tiny bit of the article, so I hope it's ok to post.
"Then, the inevitable coaching change. Then, a meeting with new Iowa State coach T.J. Otzelberger. Bolton had no intention of leaving Ames. Otzelberger, looking to gut-rehab the program he once worked for as an assistant, told Bolton he’d probably be better off playing somewhere else. “It definitely showed me this thing’s a business for sure, but it wasn’t no hate, no resentment, none of that,” Bolton says now. “I appreciate T.J. for being honest with me and not beating around the bush and keeping me there and not playing me.”
He was, he says, all-in at both schools. “Some things happened,” is how Bolton puts it, to explain why the there is the there. (He does emphasize he’s happy for Oztelberger and former teammates he still keeps in touch with, having watched their rehabilitation into a Sweet 16 outfit from afar.) These were not just some things, of course. These were big and painful things. He’s being polite and circumspect."
"Then, the inevitable coaching change. Then, a meeting with new Iowa State coach T.J. Otzelberger. Bolton had no intention of leaving Ames. Otzelberger, looking to gut-rehab the program he once worked for as an assistant, told Bolton he’d probably be better off playing somewhere else. “It definitely showed me this thing’s a business for sure, but it wasn’t no hate, no resentment, none of that,” Bolton says now. “I appreciate T.J. for being honest with me and not beating around the bush and keeping me there and not playing me.”
He was, he says, all-in at both schools. “Some things happened,” is how Bolton puts it, to explain why the there is the there. (He does emphasize he’s happy for Oztelberger and former teammates he still keeps in touch with, having watched their rehabilitation into a Sweet 16 outfit from afar.) These were not just some things, of course. These were big and painful things. He’s being polite and circumspect."
There's much more to this than you know. I would share more but it was premium info from Chris so I'll say no more.
I choose to remember Bolton primarily as being a powerful offensive force who tried his hardest to win for us, even in a terrible season.
“Narrative” give me a break. You aren’t getting Brockington if Bolton is still on the roster.
You have no idea what I know......and how I know it. But I can tell you it has nothing to do with being a "subscriber".
TJ is no nonsense.
If you can't even be engaged enough to get the ball across halfcourt with nobody guarding you then you probably won't play much in TJ's system.
Plus, the rumor on here that I remember is the 6 returning players pretty much voted him off the island.
If you can't even be engaged enough to get the ball across halfcourt with nobody guarding you then you probably won't play much in TJ's system.
Plus, the rumor on here that I remember is the 6 returning players pretty much voted him off the island.
That can be true but it also could be true that he was the first guy thrown overboard.
Yeah........narrative, on CF......hard to believe right?
You all think I have a problem with how things went down........I don't.
TJ laid down his plan......Rasir didn't want to stay.....and he is gone. Happens all the time with a new coach.
The problem once again is how many on CF have painted this. That's it and that's all.
There were reportedly issues with Rasir at the end of last season, but what it really boiled down to was getting Hunter to stick to his commitment, IMO. You can't start both guys at point guard. The players understand this side of things, and do have the ability to move on if their goals do not align with those of the program when things change. He was actually very complimentary of ISU and its supporters in his transfer announcement. He made a great choice and it has worked out well for both schools obviously.
I'm glad it worked out for both parties. Just on the surface if he and TJ sat down and talked about his role on this team and the result was it may be better for him to find another then I trust that it was the right decision and in hindsight it seems to have turned out well for both. Coming off a 2 win season there obviously was a toxic culture going on and I am not implying Bolton was part of the reason but that is something to consider here that maybe his style of play and goals did not fit what TJ wanted to do with this team. I think we all can agree that Bolton was not the caliber of defender that this group is and that is not to say he could not have bought in and changed that either but I never felt he was that good of a defender the 2 years he was here.
The way things turned out for us I think if anyone that left or was told they should look elsewhere there apparently was a good reason behind it as the culture and focus on defensive effort is night and day from last year's team.
The way things turned out for us I think if anyone that left or was told they should look elsewhere there apparently was a good reason behind it as the culture and focus on defensive effort is night and day from last year's team.
Rasir is a good kid and he has handled the transfer with amazing class. This situation worked out great for both Rasir and Iowa State. I am really happy that Rasir is having success at Gonzaga.
No, but I think he wanted to be based off of his comments when he initially came here.
Lol, well my **** is way bigger than yours bro... It doesn't really matter. He's gone, from what I know TJ wasn't even the one making the decision, it came from higher. Not to mention his teammates voted him out.
I guess I don’t buy the narrative here that his teammates hated him. Conditt posted something congratulating him on the buzzer beater at the half against Horns Down.
I have a relative that worked CSC for years at Hilton and has said the two nicest kids he ran across in the mens program were Halliburton and Bolton. Nice to the nobodies that work the games.
As far as I am aware, Rasir is the only person to publicly address the issue. What I find repulsive is the supposed behind the scenes leakage of nasty crap about Bolton. Either CF is making it up or it is just a sleazy way to cover your ass for dumping a player, leaking stuff about a student athlete as to which he has no way to defend himself. Even if he was a horrible person and the worst guy in the world, that kind of crap is totally unprofessional.
