Friday OT #1 - Mr. Know-It-All

dawgpound

Retired Billy the Barnstormer
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Jun 18, 2011
496
600
93
Des Moines, iowa
This is going to sound extremely arrogant, but I have a law degree, and I absolutely lose my **** at hearing people with high school educations pontificating about politics with an extremely limited understanding of how the American government works.

You can delete this if it's too cave-y, but when people say things like "America needs to get back to being a Christian nation" I want to slap them.

At this point I don't even bother trying to straighten them out unless I know them well and know they won't be super defensive, because it's been proven that when you confront people who hold an emotional opinion with contradictory facts, they dig their heels further into their wrong, emotional opinion.
To add to this one, as a history major with a political science minor, I have similar feelings towards this. Especially when it comes to the history of say the electoral college
 
  • Like
Reactions: Al_4_State

Al_4_State

Moderator
Staff member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 27, 2006
32,479
28,864
113
40
Driftless Region
Visit site
To add to this one, as a history major with a political science minor, I have similar feelings towards this. Especially when it comes to the history of say the electoral college
I'm not quite as learned on this specific subject, but didn't the original electoral college just elect the President directly? IE no regular citizen voted directly for the President, but rather for their electors who in turn chose the President?
 

ScottyP

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Jan 24, 2007
5,329
7,742
113
Urbandale, IA
This is going to sound extremely arrogant, but I have a law degree, and I absolutely lose my **** at hearing people with high school educations pontificating about politics with an extremely limited understanding of how the American government works.

You can delete this if it's too cave-y, but when people say things like "America needs to get back to being a Christian nation" I want to slap them.

At this point I don't even bother trying to straighten them out unless I know them well and know they won't be super defensive, because it's been proven that when you confront people who hold an emotional opinion with contradictory facts, they dig their heels further into their wrong, emotional opinion.
I get frustrated when people think that our judicial system creates laws. They interpret laws and the constitutionality of laws, but they don't make them.
 

MJ29

Well-Known Member
Aug 21, 2020
3,443
7,158
113
Oh, when someone calls any craft beer "dark beer". That drives me up a damn wall.

I don't know everything about craft beer, but I know a good deal after working in a taproom for a few years and gleaning knowledge from the owners and brewer. I volunteered at the Iowa Craft Beer Tent at the fair one summer and got so frustrated when someone insisted that Exile's Hannah is a hefeweizen. No, it's a wheat beer. Also, someone ordered something called A Shot in the Dark, which was labeled as a stout, and then they were flabbergasted that it was dark. I think they only ordered it because of the ABV. Oh, and in the taproom where I worked, I had a gentleman argue with me for a good 20 minutes about how an IPA should be transparent. I advised that most of the IPAs at this particular brewery are unfiltered and of the hazy variety. He told me I was flat out wrong. He asked the same question of a male beertender and got the same answer. He still didn't like the answer, but he didn't argue with him. He just left the beer and left because he didn't like that he couldn't see through the IPA (he didn't even taste it).
 
  • Like
Reactions: Al_4_State

dawgpound

Retired Billy the Barnstormer
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Jun 18, 2011
496
600
93
Des Moines, iowa
I'm not quite as learned on this specific subject, but didn't the original electoral college just elect the President directly? IE no regular citizen voted directly for the President, but rather for their electors who in turn chose the President?
Yes in the first couple of elections it was just electing the president directly and literally who finished second was Vice President. That changed in the early 1800s. It was created as well because back then they thought citizens weren't informed enough to truly be able to elect the president by popular vote. Also there is a messy history with the Three Fifth's compromise that is part of that original electoral college so the southern states were "represented" since almost half of their population wasn't able to vote.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: NWICY

GMackey32

Hall and Oates’ #1 Fan
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Nov 2, 2009
19,113
32,153
113
39
Ames Via Cedar Falls
Lichens. Most people think they are moss or some sort of weird growth. I think I annoy my friends and family when I spot unique ones and go on about them and why it’s so unique.
 

TrailCy

Well-Known Member
Mar 3, 2021
501
875
93
I have a Master's Degree, national certification, and 15 years experience in real estate development.

The CF poster from Leon/Tripoli/Sac City who knows a city council member's brother's friend is a realtor is not an accurate reflection of real estate development.
 

Al_4_State

Moderator
Staff member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 27, 2006
32,479
28,864
113
40
Driftless Region
Visit site
Yes in the first couple of elections it was just electing the president directly and literally who finished second was Vice President. That changed in the early 1800s. It was created as well because back then they thought citizens weren't informed enough to truly be able to elect the president by popular vote. Also there is a messy history with the Three Fifth's compromise that is part of that original electoral college so the southern states were "represented" since almost half of their population wasn't able to vote.
They weren't wrong. They still aren't.
 

CYdTracked

Well-Known Member
Mar 23, 2006
18,713
9,514
113
Grimes, IA
Most days at work when I call people up to work on their IT support tickets I usually get as least 1 person that is totally clueless yet they act like I'm the idiot. It amazes me how many people think they know what the problem is and how to fix it that doesn't actually have a clue at all but they talk down to you like you are stupid when you try to help them. I just want tell someone "well if you knew how to fix this I probably would not be calling you right now would I?" Then when you start to troubleshoot and do things you know will fix a certain issue you see all the time they say "that isn't going to work, I/someone else already tried that" to which I usually respond just let me try some things first and let's see what happens.

The best ones are when the person is not working in the office and they think something is wrong with their computer because they can't connect to the VPN or get powered up and you ask them to check their network cable or power and monitor cables and you get "I've already done that!" I ask them to check again and check both end of the connections and sometimes there is an awkward pause then you hear them humbly say "well I guess I didn't have something plugged in all the way, it's working now." LOL, those people crack me up because some get really angry and defensive when you calmly ask them to double check some of the obvious things and when they realize it was their error that changes their mood pretty quickly.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: somecyguy

ScottyP

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Jan 24, 2007
5,329
7,742
113
Urbandale, IA
This thread reminded me of my cousin's ex-husband. He would try to jump into conversations at family gatherings and try to act like the expert on it. He tried to talk like he knew more about my job than I did. It drove everyone nuts when he would try to join a conversation.
 

carvers4math

Well-Known Member
Mar 15, 2012
21,353
17,736
113
This is going to sound extremely arrogant, but I have a law degree, and I absolutely lose my **** at hearing people with high school educations pontificating about politics with an extremely limited understanding of how the American government works.

You can delete this if it's too cave-y, but when people say things like "America needs to get back to being a Christian nation" I want to slap them.

At this point I don't even bother trying to straighten them out unless I know them well and know they won't be super defensive, because it's been proven that when you confront people who hold an emotional opinion with contradictory facts, they dig their heels further into their wrong, emotional opinion.
Along these same lines, when someone says a defendant got off on a “technicality” drives me insane. That “technicality” is called the Constitution of the United States of America.
 
Last edited:
  • Winner
Reactions: 20eyes

ISUCyclones2015

Doesn't wipe standing up
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Dec 19, 2010
14,663
10,963
113
Chicago, IL
I speak at Tech conferences on enterprise device management and device security so I suppose it's gotta be that right?

I go down Wikipedia rabbit holes quite often which has led me to be pretty good at trivia. But that doesn't make you an expert in anything just useless knowledge.

Then finally Geoguesser and Virtual Vacation where you're give a view from Google Street View or a video of someone walking through a city and you gotta guess where. I'm very good at urban cities. Then the VR version called Go Guess, I'm #8 in the world which is just a perfect score but slower than 7 people. Though I am not sure how many people are on that leader board.
 

CascadeClone

Well-Known Member
Oct 24, 2009
10,941
14,069
113
This thread reminded me of my cousin's ex-husband. He would try to jump into conversations at family gatherings and try to act like the expert on it. He tried to talk like he knew more about my job than I did. It drove everyone nuts when he would try to join a conversation.
Dear god almighty we had an employee whose boyfriend was like that. Just smarter than everyone on everything.

First time we met at company xmas party, he VERY condescendingly proceeds to tell me how if I need any help managing people or running a biz he can give me some advice because this was all new for me. B!tch please, I just started here but my old job I had a $70M P&L and a dozen direct reports. I've screwed up bigger than you will ever achieve and it's background noise for me.

He also tried to start a fight with another employee (an ex-con who would have literally put him in the hospital) that night. She dumped him, but we live in fear of her bad relationship decisions.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Angie

madguy30

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Nov 15, 2011
57,420
55,342
113
This thread reminded me of my cousin's ex-husband. He would try to jump into conversations at family gatherings and try to act like the expert on it. He tried to talk like he knew more about my job than I did. It drove everyone nuts when he would try to join a conversation.

I'm in education and get a lot of comments assuming all sorts of things that go on at my job and not only are they completely wrong and based off of stereotypes and stigmas, but it's clear they haven't stepped foot into that kind of setting forever.
 

Entropy

Well-Known Member
Oct 27, 2008
9,624
15,957
113
Cedar Rapids, IA
Yes.
My background is biochemistry, but I get asked about questions in pretty much any area of science. Everything from "what causes this rash" to "explain how quantum mechanics works." I am happy to admit when I don't know something.

The last few years have been filled with correcting folks on some basic aspects of biology.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Angie

CascadeClone

Well-Known Member
Oct 24, 2009
10,941
14,069
113
As far as topics I am expert on, I don't think I would consider myself a genius on anything, but I do stay up on a lot of stuff that most people don't. Current events, international news, finance/investing, that kind of stuff. I probably come off as the know-it-all in the OP...
 
  • Friendly
Reactions: Angie