Tyrese Hunter Entering the Transfer Portal - NIL Speculation

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Plus all the transfers is great for off-season content. No one wants to read about how players are developing at their current schools, big names changing teams gets the page views.
Much like NBA free agency being a bigger story than the actual games in a lot of year.
 
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Love the people who say they’ll donate more aren’t even spending the $11 a month to support CycloneFanatic.
How is that relevant? I'm not going to give CF $11/month just to hear news 2 days before us common folk, but I would happily donate to a program designed to maintain ISU as a upper tier football and basketball school. How does giving CF anything equate to the success of ISU athletics??
 

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And we didn't feel we were being robbed. The day I got the scholarship was one of the proudest days of my life. Everything is ******* paid for, with excess money depending on your living situation. I've told the story before but I had enough excess money from the scholarship funds that I bought my first racecar with it.

Lol so you're against this because you didn't get paid. It was cool for you to have money to buy a race car but kids these days shouldn't get any more than that even if they are much, much more talented.
 

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How is that relevant? I'm not going to give CF $11/month just to hear news 2 days before us common folk, but I would happily donate to a program designed to maintain ISU as a upper tier football and basketball school. How does giving CF anything equate to the success of ISU athletics??
Imagine being on a site for 16 years and not supporting it.

If people are willing to “significantly improve” their donations. $11 should be nothing to them
 

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Why not? Even with a pretty damn hardy fanbase TV viewership and attendance for ISU goes down when the team is bad for long stretches. If ISU stops being competitive because of NIL, or relegated to a lower league then you absolutely should take those people seriously, because that's exactly what happens.

Iowa State has had some horrific stretches in both major sports and the fanbase is always there. I guess this may temporarily weed out some fair weathers just like a few bad seasons will, but they'll be back if we are good.
 

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How many on here have been asked to donate to an NIL? Guessing not many. We’re not organized properly.

Couldn't the athletic department just put an additional seat license fee to all football and mbb tickets that would be given to a booster program to fund NIL contracts? Don't even give fans an option. Then double that fee for the Iowa visitor section just for spite.
 
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Helping ISU be more competitive on the field > Reading a message board.. And I LOVE message boards
It’s just proof we’re a cheap fan base and I fully expect to lose people due to NIL regularly until we get a Billionaire Sugar Daddy
 

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Imagine being on a site for 16 years and not supporting it.

If people are willing to “significantly improve” their donations. $11 should be nothing to them

I support it - I happily see all the ads that pop up and even click on some of them due to what they are offering (which ultimately leads more $ to CF). I, however, am not interested in getting recruiting news 2 days early for $130 per year. I have two elementary school kids that take a lot of time and $, so the podcasts, etc are not in my wheelhouse.

I remember it wasn't long ago that the admin and owners pounded the table that CF would never cost the users any $, so that is what I continue to use and believe. I have also never subscribed to CR or 247 either. I just don't need recruiting information that quickly so I can rush out and tell everyone that I know something they don't.

by the way, i never used the term 'significantly improve' - that is your words. I'm really happy that $11/mo is 'nothing' to you. You should therefore be first in line to ramp up our NIL efforts. It's nice to have heavy hitters like you, so please donate more so we are not at the bottom of the athletics donation list.
 

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And we didn't feel we were being robbed. The day I got the scholarship was one of the proudest days of my life. Everything is ******* paid for, with excess money depending on your living situation. I've told the story before but I had enough excess money from the scholarship funds that I bought my first racecar with it.
Absolutely. I was the same in Track. My Junior year I got Tuition paid for. My Senior year I got the full ride. The excess cash I got my senior year I used to pay for my fiance's tuition bill. So to do the math: That is 2! educations for 1. I was on cloud frickin 9. Never once did the "oh whoa is me" go through my mind. I got a free pair of tennis shoes every month, I got 3 free meals a day. I worked my butt off for it and the day coach called me into his office and told me was the greatest day of my athletic career. So now, that same fiance turned wife and I are blessed financially to where we are donors giving back to the school that gave me my life. Forgive me for getting insanely frustrated in the NIL. Apparently I have to give more so some athlete stays to play for the same school that gave me everything because what they are getting now isnt enough?
 

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Absolutely. I was the same in Track. My Junior year I got Tuition paid for. My Senior year I got the full ride. The excess cash I got my senior year I used to pay for my fiance's tuition bill. So to do the math: That is 2! educations for 1. I was on cloud frickin 9. Never once did the "oh whoa is me" go through my mind. I got a free pair of tennis shoes every month, I got 3 free meals a day. I worked my butt off for it and the day coach called me into his office and told me was the greatest day of my athletic career. So now, that same fiance turned wife and I are blessed financially to where we are donors giving back to the school that gave me my life. Forgive me for getting insanely frustrated in the NIL. Apparently I have to give more so some athlete stays to play for the same school that gave me everything because what they are getting now isnt enough?
Because you weren't worth anything to the school. In fact you cost the school money. So you really did get a hell of a deal.
 

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Couldn't the athletic department just put an additional seat license fee to all football and mbb tickets that would be given to a booster program to fund NIL contracts? Don't even give fans an option. Then double that fee for the Iowa visitor section just for spite.
No. The Athletic Department has nothing to do with NIL. It's outside boosters and businesses.

This isn't pay to play.
 

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Absolutely. I was the same in Track. My Junior year I got Tuition paid for. My Senior year I got the full ride. The excess cash I got my senior year I used to pay for my fiance's tuition bill. So to do the math: That is 2! educations for 1. I was on cloud frickin 9. Never once did the "oh whoa is me" go through my mind. I got a free pair of tennis shoes every month, I got 3 free meals a day. I worked my butt off for it and the day coach called me into his office and told me was the greatest day of my athletic career. So now, that same fiance turned wife and I are blessed financially to where we are donors giving back to the school that gave me my life. Forgive me for getting insanely frustrated in the NIL. Apparently I have to give more so some athlete stays to play for the same school that gave me everything because what they are getting now isnt enough?

You played a sport that brought in absolutely no revenue to the school. You're beyond lucky to get a scholarship for that, I wish we only funded revenue sports, make everything else a club sport and stop wasting resources there. The fact that you had extra cash for running track is what's wrong with college sports, not that guys who play a sport that brings in millions of dollars get paid for their efforts.
 

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Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

Take the moral argument out of it, and it's terrible for the college sports media industry. It's good for the players now in the short-term (say next 5-10 years), but college sports and college sports media is in a textbook massive bubble.

The problem is people are viewing NIL and the potential of a CFB superleague from the bottom-up. Is it good for players now? Of course. Is it good for the some of teams at the top right now? Yes. I just don't think it can last.

Look at it from the industry as a whole, then work your way down over the long-term. Attendance and viewership trends have not been good for college sports for years, yet TV media dollars have continued to grow, coach's salaries have exploded, and now with NIL you have what essentially is a new massive operating expense that does not generate new viewership. Between the schools paying directly or indirectly, having to pay admin costs to deal with it, or the diversion of donor dollars from AD operating budgets and capital projects directly to NIL, it's a massive new expense for athletic departments.

And the NIL-driven transfers are more likely to cost customers for the industry as a whole through increased roster turnover and lack of competitive balance. The superleague idea probably does the same. College sports are not competively balanced now. But there's just enough of at least the perception that "my team is in the club" that people watch. That illusion is powerful. When that's gone, it's going to cost the industry customers.

So basically with both of these moves you will have an industry that shrinks overall. That might still be OK for the teams at the top, as they will get a big increase in market share. But we don't really know how that will hold up in the long-term.

But this is textbook industry bubble stuff - Arms race and media race run up expenses that greatly outpace the growth of the customer base and its willigness to pay, have a massive new direct or indirect operating expense that the industry can't valorize (NIL), have the fight for market share drive decisions that shrink the industry as a whole.
 
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