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The crash thing was absolutely idiotic. It didn't pertain to the outcome or move any plot point at all.

It was **** like that annoyed with me Ozark and keeps it from being great in my mind. I found the show entertaining and enjoyed the hell out of some of the characters, but they just did **** that drives me nuts some times.
 

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The crash thing was absolutely idiotic. It didn't pertain to the outcome or move any plot point at all.

It was **** like that annoyed with me Ozark and keeps it from being great in my mind. I found the show entertaining and enjoyed the hell out of some of the characters, but they just did **** that drives me nuts some times.
Lol I said the exact same thing. They literally only included it so they could show it at the start of the season to build suspense I guess.
 
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Lol I said the exact same thing. They literally only included it so they could show it at the start of the season to build suspense I guess.
The one redeeming quality of that whole thing was that it was really well shot and they did a great job inserting Sam Cooke "Bring It On Home" which is just a ******* great song.
 
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The writers of Ozark were incredibly sloppy after Season 1. Plot holes and dead ends everywhere.

What are some examples? I can't think of much off hand.

Not sure what the poster is talking about with the SUV, they got rid of the other guys and the SUV at the trailers was Camilla's.
 

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The crash thing was absolutely idiotic. It didn't pertain to the outcome or move any plot point at all.

It was **** like that annoyed with me Ozark and keeps it from being great in my mind. I found the show entertaining and enjoyed the hell out of some of the characters, but they just did **** that drives me nuts some times.

The crash was weird for as much build up as it got, maybe it was just supposed to be a red herring? Was there any other consequence than forcing them to go back home?
 

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The crash was weird for as much build up as it got, maybe it was just supposed to be a red herring? Was there any other consequence than forcing them to go back home?
Either a red herring or they possibly had a couple different endings laid out where the crash played a significant role?
 

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What are some examples? I can't think of much off hand.

Not sure what the poster is talking about with the SUV, they got rid of the other guys and the SUV at the trailers was Camilla's.
Dead ends:
-The car crash. It just happens. It doesn't effect anything. No one is hurt, it wasn't caused by the cartel, it has no link to anything else going on in the show. It's just a device to create a dramatic hook at the start of the 4th season.

-Wendy's dad and his congregation and the baptism of Sam (whatever the real estate agent is). What is the point of this? They all just disappear and have no connection to the greater story or end of the series. I don't think it's very realistic to think that the whole congregation would just follow him out there.

-Cosgrove and the KC mob. They just kind of disappeared without much conclusion or wrap up.

-The cartel priest. Why?

Plot holes/wildly unbelievable ****:
-Ruth is burying Nelson's body in the bottom of the pool while the contractors show up to start working for the day. Did they just not notice her walking out of there with a shovel?

-Javi, this big cartel hotshot is just wandering Chicago without protection? He goes to a fancy restaurant for lunch, beats the **** out of a guy in the bathroom and no one notices? Javi's character in and of itself is unrealistic. Cartels are much smarter. They don't just wander around the Midwest killing sheriffs for the hell of it.

-The way the Snells just hair-trigger murdered absolutely everyone that looked at them funny and just buried them in their massive opium poppy field.

This is just off the top of my head. I'm not trying to ruin the show, just explain why I didn't love it as much as Breaking Bad.
 

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Dead ends:
-The car crash. It just happens. It doesn't effect anything. No one is hurt, it wasn't caused by the cartel, it has no link to anything else going on in the show. It's just a device to create a dramatic hook at the start of the 4th season.

-Wendy's dad and his congregation and the baptism of Sam (whatever the real estate agent is). What is the point of this? They all just disappear and have no connection to the greater story or end of the series. I don't think it's very realistic to think that the whole congregation would just follow him out there.

-Cosgrove and the KC mob. They just kind of disappeared without much conclusion or wrap up.

-The cartel priest. Why?

Plot holes/wildly unbelievable ****:
-Ruth is burying Nelson's body in the bottom of the pool while the contractors show up to start working for the day. Did they just not notice her walking out of there with a shovel?

-Javi, this big cartel hotshot is just wandering Chicago without protection? He goes to a fancy restaurant for lunch, beats the **** out of a guy in the bathroom and no one notices? Javi's character in and of itself is unrealistic. Cartels are much smarter. They don't just wander around the Midwest killing sheriffs for the hell of it.

-The way the Snells just hair-trigger murdered absolutely everyone that looked at them funny and just buried them in their massive opium poppy field.

This is just off the top of my head. I'm not trying to ruin the show, just explain why I didn't love it as much as Breaking Bad.

Interesting, I think the only one I really agree with is the crash.

I think the priest is just there as a tool for Marty and Wendy to have some conversations that they couldn't have with anyone else at the time.

I think you're right on Javi, but in my mind the writers agree with you too, that's why his reign is so short.
 

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Interesting, I think the only one I really agree with is the crash.

I think the priest is just there as a tool for Marty and Wendy to have some conversations that they couldn't have with anyone else at the time.

I think you're right on Javi, but in my mind the writers agree with you too, that's why his reign is so short.
You think that a bunch of contractors roll up to a job site, and see the owner of the property digging in the foundation prepping, that they wouldn't find it strange or investigate it a little? Not even from the perspective of assuming they were hiding evidence, but just to make sure they hadn't ****** something up with the footings.

I just think that there were a lot of situations where the characters don't behave like the real life versions of these characters would. And I get it's a show and all of that, which is why I could still enjoy it, but in a serious, beautifully shot drama, I prefer that things play out closer to what would actually happen if this were real life.
 
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Dead ends:
-The car crash. It just happens. It doesn't effect anything. No one is hurt, it wasn't caused by the cartel, it has no link to anything else going on in the show. It's just a device to create a dramatic hook at the start of the 4th season.

-Wendy's dad and his congregation and the baptism of Sam (whatever the real estate agent is). What is the point of this? They all just disappear and have no connection to the greater story or end of the series. I don't think it's very realistic to think that the whole congregation would just follow him out there.

-Cosgrove and the KC mob. They just kind of disappeared without much conclusion or wrap up.

-The cartel priest. Why?

Plot holes/wildly unbelievable ****:
-Ruth is burying Nelson's body in the bottom of the pool while the contractors show up to start working for the day. Did they just not notice her walking out of there with a shovel?

-Javi, this big cartel hotshot is just wandering Chicago without protection? He goes to a fancy restaurant for lunch, beats the **** out of a guy in the bathroom and no one notices? Javi's character in and of itself is unrealistic. Cartels are much smarter. They don't just wander around the Midwest killing sheriffs for the hell of it.

-The way the Snells just hair-trigger murdered absolutely everyone that looked at them funny and just buried them in their massive opium poppy field.

This is just off the top of my head. I'm not trying to ruin the show, just explain why I didn't love it as much as Breaking Bad.
To add to this, after Darlene and Wyatt were killed, the police didn't think to check the barn on the Snell's property that was filled with opium?
 

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You think that a bunch of contractors roll up to a job site, and see the owner of the property digging in the foundation prepping, that they wouldn't find it strange or investigate it a little? Not even from the perspective of assuming they were hiding evidence, but just to make sure they hadn't ****** something up with the footings.

I just think that there were a lot of situations where the characters don't behave like the real life versions of these characters would. And I get it's a show and all of that, which is why I could still enjoy it, but in a serious, beautifully shot drama, I prefer that things play out closer to what would actually happen if this were real life.

I could see the thing with the contractors. I've worked construction jobs, as just a summer hire to abuse, and none of the rank and file would have cared enough to ask those questions.
 
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To add to this, after Darlene and Wyatt were killed, the police didn't think to check the barn on the Snell's property that was filled with opium?

That one was weird. I could see the police not finding it, thousands of acres of farm forest etc. and they would have chosen a spot where they were hidden. But a dozen people knew it was potentially up for grabs after they died.