Who is best for the Big 12?

Who is best for the Big 12?

  • Utah

    Votes: 227 49.9%
  • Colorado

    Votes: 264 58.0%
  • Arizona

    Votes: 296 65.1%
  • Arizona State

    Votes: 280 61.5%
  • Washington

    Votes: 195 42.9%
  • Oregon

    Votes: 303 66.6%

  • Total voters
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alarson

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While Oregon and Washington would be the best available, it certainly doesn't calm things down. They'd be constantly discussed about joining another conference. The stability of the other 4 is better in the long run.

I mean, that's why you take all 6 if available, and if those top 2 leave down the road you're no worse off than if you'd just taken the more stable 4 to begin with. In the meantime you cash the checks from having those bigger brands in your media rights deal
 
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I'm not buying that whatsoever. This shift is expected to take place in 2024. If the Big Ten wanted all six teams it'd be done by now.

They could be killing the Pac 12 slowly with questionably illegal media interference like the Big Ten and SEC did to the Big 12.

It's entirely possible...but Washington and Oregon will be part of this sometime.
 

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I voted for three:

Arizona - wife went to school here, so naturally

Oregon - big brand, obvious choice

Washington - another one of the bigger brands in the conference. Has football previous football success.

Stanford - whole not a choice, I’d like to bring them in for their academics. Lots of MBAs come out of there and in to tech jobs, along with other STEM related field. Would be great for ISU to try and leverage partnerships from an academic standpoint. If Stanford doesn’t want to engage in such partnerships, then forget about them.
 
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I mean, that's why you take all 6 if available, and if those top 2 leave down the road you're no worse off than if you'd just taken the more stable 4 to begin with. In the meantime you cash the checks from having those bigger brands in your media rights deal

Straight up merger with whatever is left. (knowing Wash/Oregon is gone very quickly)

It's what the two conferences should have done almost a decade ago. And they should have brought in BYU/Utah faster than they did.

Side bonus is you help Oregon St/Washington St from getting screwed like forces tried to with ISU/KSU/OKSt/Baylor/Tech several times.
 

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Start with Arizona and ASU, for their geographic locale and their basketball. And for the football recruiting footprint.

I’ll let you folks sort it out from there.
 

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They are negotiating TV money right now. You take the whole herd and it looks like under the table stuff (which is, but you try to not have it look as obvious). What is the value of the PAC12 without those two teams. Now let’s throw in two more and the conference is hosed.
Each Big Ten team is currently making an obscene amount of money annually. Does adding Oregon and/or Washington equate to more money for each Big Ten school? I think that is truly what it boils down to and I do not know the answer to that question.
 

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Each Big Ten team is currently making an obscene amount of money annually. Does adding Oregon and/or Washington equate to more money for each Big Ten school? I think that is truly what it boils down to.

Yep. And that number can be reached by a total of that teams raw value, its combined value with the other adds (including cost savings on travel) etc, but its a high bar. I could see the big 10 adding Oregon\Washington but probably not more than that.
 

CloneFanInKC

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Do everything you can to get Oregon and Washington
In addition to Clemson and one of FSU/Miami???

Go big or go home???

Adding those four plus Four others between ASU, uA, CU, Utah, Stanford, Cal would compete with SEC and BIG in scope and scale….

I’ll keep dreaming.
 
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In addition to Clemson and one of FSU/Miami???

Go big or go home???

Adding those four plus Four others between ASU, uA, CU, Utah, Stanford, Cal would compete with SEC and BIG in scope and scale….

I’ll keep dreaming.

ACC schools are locked in until 2036 and have an enormous buy out. Like hundred millions of dollars. I don’t see them losing any teams until the buyout goes down a lot in future years
 
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ACC schools are locked in until 2036 and have an enormous buy out. Like hundred millions of dollars. I don’t see them losing any teams until the buyout goes down a lot in future years
Reciting a hypothetical scenario presented to big xII in years past; what if ACC didn’t exist to enforce GoR??
 

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In addition to Clemson and one of FSU/Miami???

Go big or go home???

Adding those four plus Four others between ASU, uA, CU, Utah, Stanford, Cal would compete with SEC and BIG in scope and scale….

I’ll keep dreaming.
This sounds like a pipe dream (it is) but what if the ACC schools don’t want to fold into the B10 or SEC? They could put a mess of hurt on the college landscape!