Officiating at the end of the Iowa game

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Watched the replay last night. I put it on slow mo when they replayed the td catch. Moss was holding him a little above the wrist. Xavier did a swim move when he went up for the ball. Moss momentum was going all that way causing him to fall. Xavier had no hands on him. It’s very easy to tell on the replay putting it on slow mo. It was all moss holding his arm.

X dominated Moss when they were matched up. If Moss is an NFL starter X will have some pro bowl selections.

A no call was probably correct call, but if you throw a flag there it has to be on moss for grabbing his arms, not on grown man X swatting him away like a gnat after he was grabbed.
 
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The whistle had not blown (as least as is audible in this video), nor had the official signaled to keep the clock running, before DeJean lunged toward Dekkers to shove him out.

Regardless, it was a real lack of awareness by DeJean. Particularly when a QB is involved, officials are probably going to err on the side of safety in that situation and there's no reason to put them in the position of having to make a judgment call. Especially when Dekkers clearly wasn't going anywhere.



Especially in a stadium like Kinnick that has almost no space on the sideline...
 
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Not exactly sure.
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Hopefully this comment is satire...
Yeah, because even with that train of thought, the first warning is always accompanied with a flag. If we was just doing it and then though oh crap there is a penalty, he could have said it is a warning. The ref full wanted a penalty there.
 

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It’s a no brainer call. Which makes it even more hilarious they’re freaking out. Maybe a decade ago that’s a questionable call, but it’s not questionable in today’s game. It’s going to get called every time.

One of our corners, I think Tampa, did something similar that he didn’t get flagged for that I was surprised by, but it wasn’t a quarterback and there wasn’t another defender actively engaged, so I think because of that the refs held the flag.
I watch a lot of Iowa games and their DB's and linebackers are notorious for that shove right as the player is going out of bounds. I don't mind the physical play but in a close quarters stadium like Kinnick it's a dangerous play.
 
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IMO, refs just generally were not good for either team. I think on our touchdown drive, X caught a first down pass on one play while Noel was driving a defender away, making no effort to run a route. It was exactly like the offensive PI called on Iowa earlier in the game. These refs did poorly the whole game. I saw several times Iowa had a defender lined up in the neutral zone, never called. They call it on us with 9 seconds left. Unbelievable!
Iowa was also mimicking the snap count the entire first half until the got it called on them.
 

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Iowa had false starts all over the place also.

Iowa fans cry about Wisconsin but Iowa's o-line does the same thing. They move a hair before the ball is snapped but since it's in unison it doesn't look egregious.
 
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Watched the replay last night. I put it on slow mo when they replayed the td catch. Moss was holding him a little above the wrist. Xavier did a swim move when he went up for the ball. Moss momentum was going all that way causing him to fall. Xavier had no hands on him. It’s very easy to tell on the replay putting it on slow mo. It was all moss holding his arm.
LMAO Moss was leaning on X so hard that when he knocked his hands away he literally fell down. Iowa fans still think that should have been called.
 

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The sideline foul was the only thing that stood out as a bad call--but it was one of those typical "JFC why does this keep happening to ISU" calls so it REALLY stood out. It should have been a warning plain and simple.

The shove out of bounds was questionable but on that field I don't mind it being called. There may have been a point of emphasis on that to the teams which we don't know about.

Honestly we got lucky that the Iowa goal line fumble was ruled a fumble, because whichever way it was ruled, it was not going to get overturned.

All in all I'd say we should definitely not complain and kind of came out on top here regarding calls.
 
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Respectfully disagree.

Hunter probably has like, 4 inches and 30 pounds on that corner trying to tackle him. He was definitely struggling to bring him down, but they were headed out of bounds anyway, and I think he was just trying to push him there. I don’t think he was doing anything wrong, other than getting bullied by Hunter.

Iowa's defense is literally coached to hold a player up if they can. It's part of the reason they generate so many fumbles.
 

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Iowa's defense is literally coached to hold a player up if they can. It's part of the reason they generate so many fumbles.

Yes, while watching the game it's very apparent that they intend to keep ball carriers upright, and there were many times (before I quit watching because I was getting so angry lol) that I think the refs should have blown the whistle faster to stop the play.
 

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Not the best day I've ever seen for an officiating crew. Ultimately didn't have an impact on the outcome of the game.
 

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Iowa was also mimicking the snap count the entire first half until the got it called on them.
I was wondering about this. I think the officials usually would warn the players on the field to knock it off before actually flagging it, and maybe even go over to the coaches and tell them to get their players to stop. I'll watch the recording for some more of this before it was flagged.
 

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I'm fine with picking up the Hutchinson flag, was probably the right call. Didn't really see a good view of the offside. But they gotta hold back on the flag for the team on the field or issue a warning, they all thought they just won the game. Have some understanding there.

O’RIEN VANCE ON THE CRAZY FINAL MOMENTS AND UNSPORTSMANLIKE PENALTY ON THE IOWA STATE BENCH…

“It is what it is, like, you can’t do nothing about it. Like we got to be more aware of our surroundings, we can’t rush the field and create that penalty. But at the same time, like it was just like we’re in the moment and trying to make sure we got the job done.”

Anyone have a video clip of this? Just never saw it anywhere.
 

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LMAO Moss was leaning on X so hard that when he knocked his hands away he literally fell down. Iowa fans still think that should have been called.

I don’t know who was defending X on that final conversion attempt but I like that call. That would’ve been PI on Iowa at least half the time. Another break they ignore with their ref excuses in this one. Credit Iowa for interfering, against a lot of Defenses expecting a run that play is 6.
 
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I was wondering about this. I think the officials usually would warn the players on the field to knock it off before actually flagging it, and maybe even go over to the coaches and tell them to get their players to stop. I'll watch the recording for some more of this before it was flagged.
Iowa has been doing this for years. I'm pretty sure they had that called on them in their bowl game. I remember a Penn State media member making a comment about it when they had like 4 straight false starts in the Iowa game last year.
 

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Iowa has been doing this for years. I'm pretty sure they had that called on them in their bowl game. I remember a Penn State media member making a comment about it when they had like 4 straight false starts in the Iowa game last year.
Frankly there are quite a few teams who do this. The smart ones don't do it often but will do it on a key play (like 3rd or 4th down) here and there. Not enough to get the refs' attention but enough to get a clear advantage. The problem is that it should be called anytime it elicits a move by the offense. Most crews don't have the balls to make that call when it happens. There doesn't need to be any warning when it results in a false start by the offense.
 

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I struggle to believe Hunter is smaller than Brock and assumed he was 225ish, but either way, 206-165 =/= 30.

Dekkers is taller than Purdy. And lost weight down to 206. He is leaner yet stronger. And faster. Better nutrition according to Dekkers. Best shape of his life. Dekkers is not smaller than Brock Purdy.
 

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Dekkers is taller than Purdy. And lost weight down to 206. He is leaner yet stronger. And faster. Better nutrition according to Dekkers. Best shape of his life. Dekkers is not smaller than Brock Purdy.

Probably not talking about Purdy. Our running back is listed at 220.

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Nevermind he was talking about Purdy.
 
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