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I definitely think you're right on those two already having tentative agreements, otherwise they wouldn't be referencing what they'll be. I assume the medical building would be a new McFarland Clinic location since Pollard mentioned athletes getting treated there.
Holy **** this is exciting! Can't wait. I know it's just a few days a year but that place will be very busy during career fair days with all the employers in town
McFarland Clinic and Toppling Goliath are the two I've heard from an extremely reputable source
Literally nothing in Ames is “hard to get to”.
No your suggestion is just absolutely horrific and would be a huge money loser. As others said it would look bad too.
It shouldn’t be exactly as planned and it has changed significantly since then. Interest rates are a constantly evolving thing. I’m not sure how that affects what you build there. It may affect when stuff gets done but not what gets done.
Occupancy rates are an issue nationwide but again I don’t think that is an issue here. Retail is a different animal and the types of places that will be here are not going to have problems. Office space is a concern but as others said there is a lot of demand with the research park. I think the office leasing demand will be there because of the school.
Are you suggesting WFH won't be higher than pre pandemic permanently? Are you not aware of this consensus and pull back if office build outs? There are hundreds of examples of letting leases expire, cancelling builds. I've seen estimates at 30% wfh moving forward.
Interest rates are higher, and likely will be during next 3 year timeline when they would take on debt than when project was originally announced. Who knows on permanent, but cost to service debt has gone up.
If a business is good, people will seek it out regardless of location.
Yeah that is my thinking, but those would be on specific game days, ie 6 or 7 days per year. Only football do we use that much parking.
The rest of the year they probably would have specific parking for fans and for businesses. Also I assume the Garage spaces talked about would be for specific lease holders of the suites and businesses, apart from a specific public garage being built in the area for the convention/hotel/stephens etc.
ISU research park is out of space. If you think Jamie hasn't forecasted ANY of this into the project before revealing this, I've got beach front property in Arizona to sell you.
That’s no different than the softball stadium.
I’ve said repeatedly I understand why a performance venue is at the bottom of the AD’s priority list. I also think a performance venue is a really important piece of our campus.
Maybe it was an idle threat but it’s one that he was blasted for and has since entirely backed away from, so it seems like it only put egg on his face for no apparent reason.
Mostly because the projected $30-35M deficit ended up being around half that when it was all said and done, so the most drastic measures didn't need to be taken.
I agree it's a really important piece of our campus. Nobody else was willing to step up to the plate to save it so Jamie decided to. It was an idle threat but nobody was willing to see eye to eye with him until they had skin in the game. There was a lot of animosity between athletics and academics during that time.
If it ends up being Toppling Goliath, they're going to crush it in that location.
Crushed limestone and string lights? You serious? County fairs have better set ups than that.
I think the amount of space being built, in Ames, in that location, is going to be fairly resistant to the macro-level trends you are talking about.
A lot of credit to Wintersteen for making the move....my guess is at that time (where JP took some heat) he hadn't fully thought through all of the messaging....because the parking additions and now revenue to "reinvest" in the arts seems to be in a better spot than years ago (and Wintersteen would have had to figure that out, no matter if Athletics was the one doing it).
It probably isn't unique to Ames/ISU regarding surrounding areas concerns with what the university is doing...but i remember the softball/track "fears"...you would have thought they'd have the lights on full blast all night, every night and it'd be filled with wild people. I promise you, there was probably more concerns in the 70s-90s due to Towers than the low key events they are hosting out there.....and I for one will remind those types of people that all the hotels/meals/gas bought during those events helps the Ames community.
