Shout out to coach Campbell for calling time out to let the referee

[cygrads]

I’m still not sure on the Reeder call? I don’t think it was unnecessary roughness, but maybe PI?

In the NFL if the receiver was more than 5 yards downfield its a penalty but that is not a college rule - only if the ball was in the air which it wasn't.

 

[Daserop]

know what he thought about the rigged officiating on the weird blocking below the waist call on a ISU defender.

Dumb. Matt wasted a timeout. Refs don't give a ****.

 

[CyNews]

When radio network went to Campbell halftime sideline interview all you heard was “that was some $hit” and quick cut to commercial. Hard to say if it was Campbell or Harklau.

Thanks for confirmation of this. Tried to continually catch halftime interview and that must have been the extent of it.

 

[JM4CY]

When radio network went to Campbell halftime sideline interview all you heard was “that was some $hit” and quick cut to commercial. Hard to say if it was Campbell or Harklau.

I was listening to the entire game. I would bet my next paycheck it was Matt.

 

[Nococy]

It's never called and penalties are subjective at times. The fact it was unnecessary roughness and not PI or holding is pretty clear evidence it was a crap call.

plus the call was made by the side official which is not his call or area to watch. he has line of scrimmage and the flats

 

[Hoxsuck]

I used to feel this way but with the proliferation of gambling in our society makes me wonder a little bit more.

Yeah I agree it's either rigged or they are not good at their job.

I lean rigged since if it was just not good at their job, you would think there would be bad calls for both sides.

I just figured Baylor was covering stuff up again.

 

[clonedude]

Freyler targeting call was horrendous. Especially since it was not called on the field of play by a field official. That call came from the replay booth. Then the replay officials refuse to call Baylor for even worse infractions. Then the replay booth refused to overturn the horrendous chop block call against Johnson.

That crew is incompetent.

I don’t think the replay booth can overturn the horrendous chop block call.

 

[HFCS]

Thanks for confirmation of this. Tried to continually catch halftime interview and that must have been the extent of it.

I’m pretty sure that was all and probably for the best because what is a coach going to say when they should be up 14-3 but are down 17-14 because one team was banned from tackling.

Campbell is right that $hit is the only word to describe first half fixed game.

 

[cyclonestunners]

3 laughable calls on Freyler, Reeder & Johnson with the block below the waist on a defender absolutely atrocious. But the 3rd quarter was our demise offensively. I remember how embarrassing the picture of Rhodes on his knees pleading with an official was. Had the same feeling when CMC went into hysterics on the sideline while the announcer stated he had a history of remaining calm. Justified or not it doesn’t help the team. His timeout to then enable him to get in an officials grill was the correct procedure. I expect he will have them motivated in Lawrence. They need to be.

I agree that third quarter was a big issue... But don't think you can separate those for the calls. They continued two drives based on those calls, which led to worse time of possession, which is a big part of isu game plan. Third quarter Baylor was well rested on d due to two large extended by penalty drives by Baylor.

 

[Yellow Snow]

I’m still not sure on the Reeder call? I don’t think it was unnecessary roughness, but maybe PI?

It was legal. Lets put it this way. Had that receiver turned and started blocking Reeder (ball hadn't been thrown yet) and Reeder wasn't looking and got knocked on his ass... do you think they would throw the flag? This was within 5 yards of the LOS. No way the flag comes out. Legal play by Reeder.

 

[BCClone]

I’m still not sure on the Reeder call? I don’t think it was unnecessary roughness, but maybe PI?

For PI, ball has to be in the air. In college you can make contact anywhere as long as the ball isn’t in the air.

 

[swiacy]

I’m still not sure on the Reeder call? I don’t think it was unnecessary roughness, but maybe PI?

PI probably when the player is the intended target. Holding while in route. In this case away from the play and some would call a “cheap shot” which is officially titled unnecessary roughness.

 

[HFCS]

It was legal. Lets put it this way. Had that receiver turned and started blocking Reeder (ball hadn't been thrown yet) and Reeder wasn't looking and got knocked on his ass... do you think they would throw the flag? This was within 5 yards of the LOS. No way the flag comes out. Legal play by Reeder.

Legal play and if they were past five yards would they even call it unnecessary roughness if he just pushed a guy?

Basically it was illegal for ISU to play normal defense for a half. The game is somewhat meaningless to try to draw conclusions from other than it was bull$***. A lot of teams might be off their game if defense got banned suddenly.

 

[FDCy83]

I think a further example of the ref's blowing it was the personal foul for hands to the face in the second half. It was clear the Baylor offensive lineman was holding McDonald, so it should have been a penalty on both that offset and play the down over, not 15 yards for Baylor and a first down. Yes, McDonald did hit his facemask, but he was just trying to get out of the bear hug.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

This is all only going to get better with the crisis level referee shortage we've got going on in all sports...

 

[HFCS]

This is all only going to get better with the crisis level referee shortage we've got going on in all sports...

I think anybody passing an eye test and a spatial reasoning exam would be vastly superior in a replay official job compared to most of the replay officials. Less they care about football the better.

Any random person off the street yesterday either doesn’t call that targeting or they call that along with 2-3 others, several of which would’ve been on Baylor.

Instead we got a replay official who was either a Baylor fan or one who tried very hard for five minutes to find targeting then played candy crush on their phone for three hours. Almost anybody without extreme vision impairment could have done vastly better.

 

[StPaulCyclone]

I hoping 3-1 puts us in a bad mood. Weird as it sounds I would rather obviously win both games but I’d rather lose to Baylor than KU for respect implications

Agreed. I would have rather beaten BU than iowa, as well.

 

[Drew0311]

I just wish the refs had to actually explain what those calls were all about after the game

 

[Klubber]

The biggest thing for me on the Freyler call was that nothing was seen or called on the field. Some Baylor lover official in the booth decided to look at that and radio down to the field and stop play immediately so they could throw probably our 2nd best defensive player out of the game.

Okay.... fine.... whatever. You've decided on one of the first plays of the game what the standard for the day is going to be for 'targeting'. You're going to call it tight, and if it's even questionable you've decided you're going to toss guys out of the game. Fine. At least we know now how it's going to be called.

So the ISU players had to start being a little less aggressive and hold back a bit..... we couldn't afford to get anyone else on defense thrown out of the game.

But Baylor was still being very aggressive.... but nothing getting called on them for hits just as bad as Freyler's, or in some cases even worse. #20 for Baylor should have been thrown out twice (I know that's impossible). Doyle should have been thrown out for his hit on Brock that knocked him out of the game for a few plays. After the game Brock was asked about that hit and he said he had a stinger in his chest and said something to the affect that it's hard to sustain getting hit with the crown of the helmet right to your chest. That's the definition of 'targeting'. Was it looked at upstairs though and called down..... nope.

And then a few plays later, Johnson gets 15 yds for a below the waist hit, which was actually to the shoulder area. That one was an even far worse call than Freyler's by far. So now what do our defensive players think they can do and what they cannot do after those 2 calls? And that is why I was glad CMC called the timeout right there to rip those officials a new one. He was telling those officials... "how do you expect our players to be able to compete and play the game out there?".

It put all our defenders on edge the rest of the game wondering if they were going to get ejected, and so they played a bit more cautious. It was total BS. It was not a competitive playing field out there from that moment on IMO.

Definitely affected our aggressiveness on "D" going forward. And, as you mentioned, Baylor was allowed to be very aggressive on "D" with no targeting calls on them.

The one on Brock was textbook targeting. It was basically what they used to call spearing and is one of the most dangerous things a defender can do on the field because of a potentially serious neck/spine injury.

Bad officiating doesn't always have a huge impact, but those awful calls, and when they were called had a huge impact.

Why not get together and discuss those calls among the other refs? Especially the one on AJ? Refs do that all the time, especially during critical plays or drives or when it involves a team scoring, etc.

 

[besserheimerphat]

It’s either rigged or pure incompetence. You pick.

Don't assign malice where mere incompetence is sufficient.

ETA: Just to be clear, I agree the refs were ridiculous yesterday. Easily the worst we've seen this season. But that doesn't mean they got paid to make calls in Baylor's favor.