Lord of the Rings Universe Thread
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I'm almost done, but had to stop to get kids ready for school. I like it a lot. They are doing a good job leaning into the mystery. I don't know precisely where this is going.
If I didn't have to get my kid to school at 7:20 and worked from home, I possibly would have watched it already.
Sounds like the WOT books. Yeah I liked the show overall too. Not mind blowing but a decent adaptation.
A good quick refresher on the history of the 2nd Age (spoiler alert, I guess, if a summary of an old book can be such a thing). I knew most of it, though it has been long enough that most it reminded me of things I knew previously.
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If Hallbrand is who I think he is, this show is better than I thought. I think Hallbrand is the King of the Dead, the dead king Aragorn convinces to help him in Return of the King. The king who betrayed Isildur and got himself and his army cursed.
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I'm wondering if he isn't Sauron? I believe the lore spells out that Sauron became a trusted advisor to the king of Numenor and led him to attack the Valar (resulting in the destruction of the entire island). But it also says that the destruction ruined his body so that he could no longer appear fair. But he has to be fair to deceive the elves to help him make the rings.
I am really, really enjoying this show and it's remarkable how many mysteries they have woven into things considering this is a prequel that we know a lot about. We don't know who Halbrand is, we don't know who Theo is, etc. There is a lot going on here.
The timeline from the history is getting super compressed which is starting to make things get complicated. Celebrimbor and Sauron made the rings about 1500-2000 years before the war where Sauron was defeated and Isildur claimed the one ring. Like 90% of the people shown in the series should not even exist yet if the rings aren't yet made.
Remember, the Amazon series isn't canon. Its more or less glorified fan fiction. I wouldn't expect any timelines to match the books.
Right, but the events they plan on showing are going to make for bad story telling if it all happens in 10-20 years time. They don't have rights to all of Tolkien's works, but what they do have rights to does has a reasonably well detailed timeline. They've already said they are planning on multiple seasons, so not sure why they felt they had to rush it like they have been.
I disagree. Trying to stretch this over 2000 years will make for bad visual storytelling. That would doom the series from the start.
It doesn't have to be spread over that long, but there needs to be enough time for things like the creation of the rings, the founding of Mordor, the first war and defeat of Sauron, Sauron's return, building Barad-dur, the ensnaring of the 9, the founding of Gondor and Arnor, the fall of Numenor, and the last alliance of elves and men.
The only way I could see it working is if they make liberal use of the fact that Numenoreans live much longer than normal men. Then perhaps they can allow 100-200 years of time passing between the 2 major offensives to defeat Sauron. It's still going to feel rushed to me, though.
The amount of care put into this show IMO is outstanding. I think they have planned for it.
I don't have any real affection for any of the Middle Earth story outside of LoTR so I don't really care if they compress the storyline. But from a TV perspective, you can't have people constantly aging and dying within a TV show. It doesn't work. They'll do their best to have it make sense and stuff.
For the record, Tolkien actually looked forward to people taking Middle Earth and running with it and making fan fiction type stuff. His son didn't let any of it happen because he was eager to protect his legacy by making his works the only thing that existed. Of course he did release the Silmarillion, which IMO only exists to bore readers who really got excited about Tolkien's original works.
Yep. Lots of questions still. Is that the formation of Mount Doom!
My thoughts exactly! I think the rest of this season is going to be pretty entertaining now that they have laid everything out.
