Offensive Adjustments
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So at this point, what adjustments can be made? What would you do in Mannings place?
The offense looked respectable vs a good iowa and a good baylor defense. There ARE useful pieces there. This is not the "no hope" situation at the ToE.
What can be done? And i mean schematically, not looking for 10,000 more posts of "fire someone".
The offense looked respectable vs a good iowa and a good baylor defense. There ARE useful pieces there. This is not the "no hope" situation at the ToE.
What can be done? And i mean schematically, not looking for 10,000 more posts of "fire someone".
Here's what people are actually reacting to: When in 2017 ISU didn't have the defensive personnel to run the scheme effectively, the coaches were able to completely revamp it, over a bye week mind you, and rescue the season. Now presented the same situation on the other side of the ball, nothing happens. And in the process, they are wasting the effort of the defense that has been beyond solid ever since the first change was made.
They've shown in the past that they can correctly identify the issues and innovate solutions. So do it again and don't waste the effort this defense is giving.
They've shown in the past that they can correctly identify the issues and innovate solutions. So do it again and don't waste the effort this defense is giving.
Feels like they need to get the other WR's more involved. Stanley and Shaw have been inconsistent, but Noel has been good. Would like to see him get more targets, ease the burden on X. Would be really helpful if the TE's were better. Hannika has made a few catches, maybe try getting him going? Also, Dekkers had a couple of really good scramble plays this game. His designed runs didn't work against KU or BU, but maybe there's something there.
I actually thought the TE's played well last night. Dekkers really struggles to see the whole field and gets locked on to Hutch
What adjustments are they going to make? The problem with this year's team is for the first time in about 8 years he doesn't have Kareem Hunt, Montgomery, or Breece to cover up their offensive ineptitude.
Brock is a serviceable Big 12 back but he just isn't on the same level as those other guys and Silas and Sandwers seem more like 3rd down backs.
Brock is a serviceable Big 12 back but he just isn't on the same level as those other guys and Silas and Sandwers seem more like 3rd down backs.
IMO Dekkers is hanging in the pocket until sacked too often. If he gets a lane he needs to go for it. Young QB. Inconsistent at times. Inconsistency is killing drives. Teams with scrambling QB’s doing better. We need the threat of QB scrambling and not just staying in the pocket and getting the sack. Safeties don’t have to play the QB breaking a big scramble. We need the threat.
I thought the protection was fine last night, he's getting adequate time to throw most of the time. K-State really locked down on X and we don't have much else able to get open on their own. Our tight ends are also non-existent from the game plan for some reason.
Less two TE sets
Get Dekkers out of the pocket more
Throw downfield every once in a while
Routes to the sticks on 3rd down
Get Dekkers out of the pocket more
Throw downfield every once in a while
Routes to the sticks on 3rd down
I agree. Would be great to have some kind of "Iowa State Film Room" show from someone qualified to see what the issues are.
I'm not necessarily sold that we need any sort of staff changes since I've seen some bad Iowa State teams in my time, and losing to a few ranked teams by like a point isn't the worst situation we've ever been in. Obviously it's disappointing to lose those winnable games when it seems like we can't get out of our own way.
We need those Jay segments from a few years ago back.
He was really good at picking apart different aspects and pointing out what was missing.
In all, ISU needs a run game really badly and that doesn't look like it will happen this year.
Many keep throwing out the buzz words like 'creative' and 'innovative' but you at least need something to play off of to innovate.
True fact. Our run game threat is nonexistent. It appears from the stands that the gap between Brock & Silas isn’t that great. Silas is quicker but goes down easier and Brock runs harder but is not a burner. In fairness, Brock may be dinged up enough that he is a step slower. I played Oline in college and a back has to react instantly to how the play develops and not blindly run to the spot the play was drawn up to produce. These two guys do not react to the play flow and do not veer to the open gap but run directly into where the lineman is shoving the defender. This is what separates the great backs from the good ones. They find the holes. Hall & Montgomery did. Unless our run game develops an offense struggles. Additionally, we have decided not to throw to a tight end after featuring that for four years and we don’t throw long to anybody. Stanley needs to be utilized.
Brock is majorly dinged. Why they had Rus in at the end. Brock struggled to run onto the field.
Nothing to try to get the offense going. No trick plays, fake punts different looks. They know what we are going to do before our players line up.
Absolutely perfect post. I can only give this a winner once, but it's just... Perfect.
Our run game sucks. We continue to run plays designed for future NFL running backs and not who we have for backs. We sometimes zone block and sometimes man block. Pick one. We never do read options with Dekkers. We never run misdirection or cut back runs. We finally used a fullback that seemed to have success but never used it with Brock. If we don't use a full back use a pulling guard. We never use numbers to our advantage or make the defense think. Just blob run left or blob run right.
Dont get me started on our **** passing game, but a competent running game will open up passing.
Dont get me started on our **** passing game, but a competent running game will open up passing.
We changed philosophy a couple games ago. About half time of Baylor. We would pass to set up the run (even a few medium routes). We would pass 90% until the run loosened and the split pretty evenly. Now we will just run to run and out pass routes have shortened. We are getting run blitzed non stop. We need to go back to what we did up to halftime if Baylor. No idea why we changed.
