ESPN, Fox Open Discussions for Next Big 12 Deal
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I wonder if Fox and ESPN are willing to pay a decent amount more in order to keep Amazon, Apple, Etc. out of the market?
If I understand correctly, we are only negotiating with our current media partners, and we cannot engage other media companies. So if that is the case, we must be getting a decent package.
My impression is that we're negotiating early, and wouldn't be able to actually negotiate with anyone else until we reached a certain period of the contract.
I think it's great news, as clearly the Big 12 will be getting something they're excited about, and the PAC 12 has pretty much nothing in hand even though they were supposed to be finishing theirs up now.
I'm sure the Big 12 will also have some mechanisms to add teams, and that should be really attractive given the limbo in the PAC 12.
Andrew Marchand on his podcast today said the same thing as well. Think Marchand may be light on the Dollar amount though.
Go to the 21:15 mark:
Is he talking about 400mil combined? If that’s close to accurate then when the commish said the media rights deal would be higher then it is now he was being very generous with the term “higher”
Do the 4 G5 teams get an equal share day one? Becuase if that’s combined that’s barely 34mil per school. Obv you can add more for the lower rights but breaking 40mil might be tough. That would only be 5mil more per team then what the PAC was offered.
If an agreement is reached this soon I would guess the Big 12/Yormak have gotten all they asked for and be favorable to the the schools. Perhaps even more than many of us expected.
Basically the opposite result of the PAC negotiation.
I doubt it this would just be Tier 1-2 media.
Here is how the Big12's 2020-21 break down looks. Here is my source.
| Tier 1-2 | $26.0* |
| Tier 3 (ESPN+) | $4.0 |
| Tier 3 (Sponsorships, radio, etc.) | $11.0 |
| Big 12 Championship ($20mm) | $2.0 |
| Sugar Bowl ($30mm) | $3.0** |
| NCAA Championship (17-21) | $1.2 |
| TOTAL | $47.2 |
Just as a heads up these numbers are with OUT, he has a separate table with the 4 new additions and it’s 5 mil lower. With those extra revenue sources should end up around 45-50mil which will easily put you in 3rd.
Of course, its from 2020-21, how could it not?? The separate table with the 4 new additions was an estimate from Sept 2021, over a year ago. So from then to now it's trending in a better direction, I agree with everything else close to 50m per.
Until the conference adds a line for "International Partnerships". (Joking. Not joking)
The world looked like it was ending when the Cows and Boomer announced. Now there seems to be a path forward
Yormark seems to be the perfect hire.
Agree, I think the new commish is exactly what the Big12 needed. The last guy seemed like an idiot but that’s just an outside perspective
Well...the last guy was an Iowa/UNI guy! LOL...I think Bowlsby was a bit old school...definitely needed a new approach/vision for this era of the Big 12!
What I don't see in the above #'s are CFB Playoff $. I would think that amount could be $20M per school with a 12 team playoff.
I have to believe any ESPN agreement to carry Big12 games go forward would include Tier 3 rights as the Big12 is a centerpiece to the ESPN+ platform. I just hope Big12 gets some assurances that ESPN will invest in making ESPN+ platform better. It's also disappointing that replays of all Big 12 contests that are originally broadcast on ABC or ESPN Networks aren't automatically available.
Just from the marketing moves it's PAINFULLY obviously Bowlsby was working from an outdated playbook.
Like I said. The Big 12 was driving a Model T and happy we weren't riding a horse.
My thoughts
- Tier 3 will likely be included going forward. They were only seperate because of OUT
- Guaranteed network slots have to be on the table. 2:30pm on FOX being the "Big 12 Game of the week" or something like that
- Big 12 can be open to a few more Thursday games to reduce competing against B1G/SEC. One Thursday game per year per team isn't going to kill anyone. TNF on AMZN is a complete turd of a product, and this year has shown eyes can wander away from it.
- Please for the love of god bring rivalry week into the Big 12 ffs
- Tier 3 will likely be included going forward. They were only seperate because of OUT
- Guaranteed network slots have to be on the table. 2:30pm on FOX being the "Big 12 Game of the week" or something like that
- Big 12 can be open to a few more Thursday games to reduce competing against B1G/SEC. One Thursday game per year per team isn't going to kill anyone. TNF on AMZN is a complete turd of a product, and this year has shown eyes can wander away from it.
- Please for the love of god bring rivalry week into the Big 12 ffs
