ESPN, Fox Open Discussions for Next Big 12 Deal

ISU_Guy

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So are we rooting for the big10 to take 2-4 more schools?
Are we wanting the Pac12 to survive and just be at 10+Mil below us or do we want it just to blow up?
 

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I've tried to see if this is clarified anywhere but can't find it. I tend to be on the side that it does not include it, since we still are not 100% sure what the expanded playoff is going to be
Seriously. This is the media contract. Our media contract before was 220 per year or 22M per 10 schools.
Now it is 380M or 31.6M per 12 schools. This is a 9.6M increase per year per school, in our Media deal. This has nothing to do with any of the bowl money, NCAA tournament money, playoff money, Sponsor money, or T3 money etc.

So you take our current 42M+/- and add 9M to it. Then if there are any other changes, ie. increased playoff payouts those get added at that time. Just like they anticipate a large jump to the B1G and SEC pay in 2026 because they anticipate a jump in playoff money. Not because the media money takes a jump. Although the B1G does have an increasing scale to their contract too. But the people coming out with estimates are estimating the playoff money in the future as well.

Pollard is stating the current value based on what he KNOWS, from last years pay, and the known contract increase from this MEDIA deal.
 

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Interesting bits (to me, anyway) from the SBJ piece:

The conference also likes the idea that the shorter six-year deal that runs through 2031 means that the Big 12 will be back in the market ahead of both the SEC, whose deal with ESPN goes through 2034, and the ACC, whose ESPN deal expires in 2036.

For the “A” package, ESPN gets the top four football picks each season, six of the top eight picks, eight of the top 12 picks and 12 of the top 20 picks. As part of the deal, ESPN also gets the rights to the Big 12 football championship game and the basketball tournament championship game. The Big 12’s parity helped convince Fox, whose package includes 26 football games per season that will run on Fox broadcast network and FS1, to do the deal.

From Fox’s perspective, the silver lining to the loss of Oklahoma and Texas is that the Big 12 will be more balanced and potentially deeper. For example, TCU and Kansas State sit atop the Big 12’s standings this season. Last season, it was Oklahoma State and Baylor. And the year before that, it was Iowa State. Fox’s deal also provides a slate of Big 12 college basketball games on Fox and FS1 for the first time.
 

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So are we rooting for the big10 to take 2-4 more schools?
Are we wanting the Pac12 to survive and just be at 10+Mil below us or do we want it just to blow up?
Only thing I'm really rooting for is the Big 12 to maximize its earning potential. We have to be entirely selfish in these dealings, unfortunately. If there are expansion candidates that are "additive", in Yormark's words, I am all for it.
 
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Mandel isn't living in any semblance of reality. The Pac 12 is losing at least their two biggest brands, and even then nobody gave two ****s about them... and he still thinks the Pac 12 is going to do better than $50 mil/year?

At least his delusions are entertaining.
What are you talking about?? Media company’s are going to pay top dollar for a pac 12 streaming product that people literally won’t pay to see in person.
 

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Just a reminder these numbers are a bit skewed because they contain the expanded playoff. When you add that to the prior contract, it’s not quite as big of a bump. That was going to happen regardless.

Did the B1G and SEC figures include expanded playoff numbers as well?
 
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$15m per team seems high. That's over $1B per year for 11 games. And that'd be a $1B increase over the current playoffs and NY6 games that'll go away.
Bob Thompson, former Fox President, and others estimate that the media rights for the 11 game playoff will be $1.8 to $2.2 billion per year. Current 4 game format is $600 million per year.

Big 12 last year got $78 million so if you triple it, each of the 12 teams in the Big 12 would get $19.5 million.

So $15 million looks very possible.
 
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EDIT: There will be no more tier 3. ESPN owns all of what used to be called Tier 3 rights.

This could mean that Tier 3 is NOT included in the estimates meaning that Amazon/Apple could still be in play for Tier 3 which would increase the annual revenue even more.



 
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I don't care what the PAC 12 gets now for their rights.

I like our product and it provides stability for the Big 12, but more important for me is we keep our access on ESPN & Fox and not move some of our big games to a streaming service. Then we will see how good our product and ratings are 8 years from now and see what happens.
 

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The boys at Apple are definitely considering “bringing the bag”.


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Nor'MidWester

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Big 12 base tv deal $31 million how does that compare to the Big tens deal? Is this the same deal as their 70 mil? With playoffs and tourneys they'll be getting like $90 mil each? That's depressing...but we already knew that.
 
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