Looks like 2012 & 13 were down (5-7 both seasons). It would be interesting to know if he made any changes in coaching staff or style of play after either season.
Campbell Still in Demand?
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I think if the wheels have truly come off it won't last that long. For example, we don't win anymore games this year, then we go 3-9 or worse next year and the year after, he will be done in Ames IMO. The outcry of the fans will be too much for Jaime to ignore by then.
NIL would be impacting both sides of the ball if that was to blame here.
Wait, you're willing to go winless in conference this year, 3-9 the year after, and then wait to go 3-9 again before doing something?
CycloneErik
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I thought about saying 2-3. I could see that. I just assume JP would hold on as long or longer than possible.
What's his record if you takeout 2016? The program was a dumpster fire when he took over. That's an impressive record if you take out his first year.
We won the Orange Bowl?
What if it is just that other teams have figured out ISU's offense and gameplan?
I mean, a couple teams already identified a glaring weakness on our punt protection.
Another recognized a fault in our field goal defense.
I mean, other teams scout us better than we do ourselves. That is all coaching.
Opponents have said they want ISU to slow it down, makes matching-up and setting their defense easier. They fear up-tempo.
CMC's response? Slow it down, look to the sideline, just relax.
It is the middle of Big12 Football season, and there are only 3 active football threads on the front page of Cyclone Fanatic.
How absolutely pathetic is that? Great job coach!
How absolutely pathetic is that? Great job coach!
You're big into facts, huh?
Kansas did in 2007
I thought we won the Fiesta Bowl in 2020? The very reason Matt is the only person who will decide when he leaves.
It's not so much that I am or am not willing, but more or less a prediction of how I think it would play out if that is our record the next 2 years (+this year).
Retired the first time. Then had good years mixed with not so good. Again.
How do you calculate your odds? Odds are Campbell fixes things.
CycloneErik
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Odds are Campbell crashes and burns. That's the norm if someone drops like this.
I am. Campbell deserves the opportunity IMO. And it lowers the payout should there be termination. Campbell is our best option. You ride with him.
Campbell is not your normal coach. He is only 42 years old.
CycloneErik
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Whatever. That's a completely irrelevant factoid.
Keep the emotional attachment. That's fine. He's just a guy doing a job. Right now, he's not doing well at it. Maybe he gets better, maybe not. Given that most coaches don't, probably not, but he gets the years to show either way.
And then we get to wait another 30 years until we hire someone else competent.
I honestly believe he’d get four years of the same results doing the same things before hard questions are even asked by anyone that matters. This is the guy that won the Fiesta Bowl.
We all know Paul Rhoads would have gotten another year if he defeated Kansas State in 2015.
How many years would Prohm have gotten if he kept up 10-15 wins a year? He had to produce the worst season in the history of Iowa State basketball to be sent off.
CycloneErik
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Sure, but if we're going to start piling up 3 win seasons, then Campbell isn't competent, either.
Next year's really the tell.
Both of those last two points are bad. Rhoads was cooked either way, that loss was just insult to injury. Our fanbase felt that the entire season. Rhoads cycled out assistants constantly.
Prohm would've had less leash than McDermott, which was 4 years. His firing year was, what, the second bad year in 3? He had one more to reach the tourney again, max. This also was after he cycled his assistants.
Campbell's seat would begin to warm up after another bad year next season. Now the question of him rotating offensive staff after this or the following year remains.
