Big 12 games thus far...

[CascadeClone]

Another meat grinder. So glad to start 3-0

2 games better than I thought they would be pre-season. Figured Baylor to be an L, and 1-1 in the road games. Thrilled at the start.

Every game is a great game, what a league. No nights off vs Vandy, Cal, or Minny. Yormark needs to find a way to turn this into something bigger brand-wise. Big12 gets a lot of press about being the best league this year, but this is a great chance to solidify that in the more casual fan.

 

[surly]

Yeah, K-State v. Texas was on LHN, v. Baylor was on the plus, and now ISU at Ku too, WTH?

 

[Clonedogg]

Yeah, K-State v. Texas was on LHN, v. Baylor was on the plus, and now ISU at Ku too, WTH?

+ is cashing in on those Big12 subscriptions.

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

I'd 100% rather see Kansas at 0-3.

That goes without saying and also something that sadly will likely never happen.

 

[surly]

Ku has wins over TxT, WVU both away, and oSu at home. Not the most daunting of schedules to this point in time. Saturday, Tuesday it's ISU in the fog and at K-State.

 

[psychlones]

15 league games so far.

7/15 have been by 3 points or less

11/15 have been by 7 points or less

3 games have gone to OT

Largest margin of victory is 15 (ISU over Baylor)

Home teams have won only FIVE of the fifteen games?!?!

Not only that, but home teams started out 5-1. The last 9 Big 12 games have been won by the road team. That is amazing!

The three remaining undefeated teams all have home games on Tuesday night. I hope the road team trend continues for two of those three games. I'll let you guess which two.

 

[HFCS]

Tim Floyd standings if I'm adding up correctly:
Iowa State +2
KU +2
KSU +2
Texas +1
TCU even
OU -1
OKSt -1
WVU -1
Baylor -2
Tech -2

WVU seems to be the only team maybe doing a little better than standings show if you value this home court centered thinking.

 

[ZRF]

I think KSU caught a break with the Texas debacle and catching Baylor in the midst of a slide. I think they are a very good basketball team, but Texas isn't the same since the Beard debacle (though their is a chance they could get worse as the season goes on because of it).

We are bound to have some clunkers but I think the odds of them happening like they did last season, or even to the degree of the Iowa game are fairly small for a couple of reasons. The first is Lipsey, and his continued handling of the offense. The second is shot selection; as a team we have made excellent decisions on the offensive end of the floor. Third is defense. While we were a good defensive team last year this year's team is simply better and cleaner at it. I thought we got away with a lot of bodying at times and while we sometimes ride/body 10 feet beyond the arc, and put up stupid fouls from it, we aren't doing it to the degree we were last season. The 4th is we have more (and consistent) offensive contributors. Grill is more consistent, as is Kalscheur, Lipsey distributes and gets to the lane, Osun is an athletic. pick and roll lane presensce we didn't have, while King, Jones, and Kunc can give us buckets.

All things considered I think shot selection, as well as making front ends of 1 and 1s, are keys to our continued success. Shot selection gives us two things: a higher probability of scoring and a reduced probability of yielding transition buckets. TCU was most problematic when they were able to get out in transition and I think the consistent reduction of such opportunities is critical to our success.

 

[Billups06]

I think KSU caught a break with the Texas debacle and catching Baylor in the midst of a slide. I think they are a very good basketball team, but Texas isn't the same since the Beard debacle (though their is a chance they could get worse as the season goes on because of it).

We are bound to have some clunkers but I think the odds of them happening like they did last season, or even to the degree of the Iowa game are fairly small for a couple of reasons. The first is Lipsey, and his continued handling of the offense. The second is shot selection; as a team we have made excellent decisions on the offensive end of the floor. Third is defense. While we were a good defensive team last year this year's team is simply better and cleaner at it. I thought we got away with a lot of bodying at times and while we sometimes ride/body 10 feet beyond the arc, and put up stupid fouls from it, we aren't doing it to the degree we were last season. The 4th is we have more (and consistent) offensive contributors. Grill is more consistent, as is Kalscheur, Lipsey distributes and gets to the lane, Osun is an athletic. pick and roll lane presensce we didn't have, while King, Jones, and Kunc can give us buckets.

All things considered I think shot selection, as well as making front ends of 1 and 1s, are keys to our continued success. Shot selection gives us two things: a higher probability of scoring and a reduced probability of yielding transition buckets. TCU was most problematic when they were able to get out in transition and I think the consistent reduction of such opportunities is critical to our success.

Comparing to last year, we didn't have much of a system on offense, we went as far as Brockington's jumper carried us (I don't remember him being off and Iowa State winning). Much more deliberate/multiple on offense this year and having a consistent 3 point threat helps.

Great point on yielding transition buckets; last year it seemed the majority of our turnovers/poor shots led to runouts for the other team. I imagine those runouts have decreased year over year.

 

[CycloneWanderer]

Comparing to last year, we didn't have much of a system on offense, we went as far as Brockington's jumper carried us (I don't remember him being off and Iowa State winning). Much more deliberate/multiple on offense this year and having a consistent 3 point threat helps.

Great point on yielding transition buckets; last year it seemed the majority of our turnovers/poor shots led to runouts for the other team. I imagine those runouts have decreased year over year.

From what I've seen, I would agree with all of this. Last year looked like a team who worked hard on defense and wasn't quite sure how to work the offense being attempted. This year the offense has a lot of similar movement, but things appear more purposeful towards actually scoring off it. It's like last season they were going through motions that were taught to them in a somewhat listless way sometime, but this year they know how to create advantages with the same motion and act quickly to score from them.

 

[acoustimac]

Anyone notice Tyrese is doing his usual have one great game and three terrible ones for Texas? Beginning of the year I thought he might produce more in their system but his offensive inconsistency is glaringly there.

 

[coolerifyoudid]

Comparing to last year, we didn't have much of a system on offense, we went as far as Brockington's jumper carried us (I don't remember him being off and Iowa State winning). Much more deliberate/multiple on offense this year and having a consistent 3 point threat helps.

Great point on yielding transition buckets; last year it seemed the majority of our turnovers/poor shots led to runouts for the other team. I imagine those runouts have decreased year over year.

There were only two notable games that I can remember:

Memphis - He was 3-6 for 9 points with 4 rebounds and 3 fouls

Wisconsin - He was 4-15 for 10 pts with 4 turnovers

*A quick glance at the box scores show that he either led us in scoring or rebounding (or both) for every other win except Grambling. He only played 19 minutes, and I don't remember if he was sick, injured, foul trouble or just not needed.

 

[Billups06]

There were only two notable games that I can remember:

Memphis - He was 3-6 for 9 points with 4 rebounds and 3 fouls

Wisconsin - He was 4-15 for 10 pts with 4 turnovers

*A quick glance at the box scores show that he either led us in scoring or rebounding (or both) for every other win except Grambling. He only played 19 minutes, and I don't remember if he was sick, injured, foul trouble or just not needed.

Interesting, thanks for looking that up! I was speaking in generalizations, but man, Brockington truly was the offense. Glad to know my memory isn't as bad as I once thought.

 

[coolerifyoudid]

Interesting, thanks for looking that up! I was speaking in generalizations, but man, Brockington truly was the offense. Glad to know my memory isn't as bad as I once thought.

Yeah, it's a testament to how well TJ replaced his production and how well are doing this year without him.

 

[HFCS]

I think KSU caught a break with the Texas debacle and catching Baylor in the midst of a slide. I think they are a very good basketball team, but Texas isn't the same since the Beard debacle (though their is a chance they could get worse as the season goes on because of it).

We are bound to have some clunkers but I think the odds of them happening like they did last season, or even to the degree of the Iowa game are fairly small for a couple of reasons. The first is Lipsey, and his continued handling of the offense. The second is shot selection; as a team we have made excellent decisions on the offensive end of the floor. Third is defense. While we were a good defensive team last year this year's team is simply better and cleaner at it. I thought we got away with a lot of bodying at times and while we sometimes ride/body 10 feet beyond the arc, and put up stupid fouls from it, we aren't doing it to the degree we were last season. The 4th is we have more (and consistent) offensive contributors. Grill is more consistent, as is Kalscheur, Lipsey distributes and gets to the lane, Osun is an athletic. pick and roll lane presensce we didn't have, while King, Jones, and Kunc can give us buckets.

All things considered I think shot selection, as well as making front ends of 1 and 1s, are keys to our continued success. Shot selection gives us two things: a higher probability of scoring and a reduced probability of yielding transition buckets. TCU was most problematic when they were able to get out in transition and I think the consistent reduction of such opportunities is critical to our success.

People complaining Texas is still ranked above KSU. #11 is plenty high for KSU (as is #14 for ISU).

I would be a little skeptical of Texas at #10 with everything going on.

 

[VeloClone]

Yeah, it's a testament to how well TJ replaced his production and how well are doing this year without him.

Yeah, the 4 returning players need some of the credit as well. Each of them improved their scoring from last year and the increases have covered 12.7 ppg of the 16.9 Brockington contributed last year.
.....22-3...21-2...+
GK...10.9, 9.6, 1.3
CG...10.8, 6.4, 4.4
AK.... 8.5, 6.0, 2.5
RJ.... 7.4, 2.9, 4.5
Total + ..............12.7
___
IB... 16.9

It is also worth noting that each of these returners has increased their FG percentages year over year.
GK... .363, .397
CG... .391, .433
AK... .419, .484
RJ... .500, .528

 

[CYedUp]

Uhhhhggh I have a dilemma with this ku v ou game ... I really want ku to lose but it would be electric game with both ISU and KU undefeated in big12 play...

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I'm always ok with Kboo losing.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Uhhhhggh I have a dilemma with this ku v ou game ... I really want ku to lose but it would be electric game with both ISU and KU undefeated in big12 play...

It's going to be electric regardless. fKU.

 

[tyler24]

Uhhhhggh I have a dilemma with this ku v ou game ... I really want ku to lose but it would be electric game with both ISU and KU undefeated in big12 play...

You always want Kansas to loss. Any Kansas loss is good.