*** Official #11 IOWA STATE vs West Virginia Game(Day) Thread ***

CloniesForLife

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I frankly like it better when we win. We should tell the guys to win more.
Even if we won it was just not enjoyable. Guys played their guts out but the officiating made it damn near unwatchable
 

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KU hangover or just sloppy play?

Sloppy play. It’s not like we haven’t seen Tamin just have a weird amount of turnovers for no reason all in a row. It doesn’t happen often, but when it does, it’s not pretty.
 

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Lipsey is still a freshman and he's doing freshman things in a high-pressure environment

Yet he was still majorly the reason we even had a chance to win

I agree, and I’m not saying that’s why they lost, I’m saying that was the reason for the slow start. Tamin has been having little stretches of carelessness with the ball recently, this one just happened to be right at the top of the game for about 6 minutes or so.
 

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Always disappointed with a loss but not disappointed with the team's resilience and poise playing in a tough environment with Horsesh*t officiating. Hall of Fame baseball coach Connie Mack said, "You can't win them all." And of course, it isn't realistic to think we can.
 

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We need Gabe to recapture start of conference season Gabe. He's been not great on offense the last couple games
 
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No you are right. My point being, and if anyone thinks I don’t care about winning the conference title that would be very false, is that winning a conference title is no guarantee of anything in March. Because to your point IF you **** the bed and lose in the first round well that season loses a ton of luster. It just does. It doesn’t actually take anything away from the conference title but the tournament is where it’s at and where true memories are made. If we ever get to see our men make the Final Four this site will actually melt down and crash forever. And if we somehow played in the championship and won it to see One Shining Moment with our Cyclones being the lasting image? I’m good never winning the conference.

Look at Purdue. They have had some damn good teams lately, including Big Ten titles in ‘17 and ‘19. No Final Fours since 1980 I believe. Let’s see if they can do it this year, but if they don’t that will eat away at their fans. Villanova went through this for a long time where they always came up short in the tournament until Jay Wright finally got them over the hump and took it all the way twice. Good friend is a Nova grad and he said getting to the Final Four was so amazing and then winning it was just the most surreal thing ever.
Must not have been around for the upset of Georgetown.
 

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I agree, and I’m not saying that’s why they lost, I’m saying that was the reason for the slow start. Tamin has been having little stretches of carelessness with the ball recently, this one just happened to be right at the top of the game for about 6 minutes or so.

The group in general can get careless with the ball throughout. It's a thing they do and I'm not sure it gets fixed.
 

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We need Gabe to recapture start of conference season Gabe. He's been not great on offense the last couple games

Odds are he was going to come back down. We have 4.5 years of percentages to go off of, and as much as I hoped he would keep it up, it was never likely. Not to mention, teams will key much harder on him now. They need him to be a difference maker, hopefully he can do it.
 

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We need Gabe to recapture start of conference season Gabe. He's been not great on offense the last couple games
They were face guarding Gabe and playing 4x4 on that end of the court. Plus our offense doesn’t purposely create many looks for him. He gets them from his off ball movement and ball movement which is pretty easy to negate by face guarding him.
 
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The group in general can get careless with the ball throughout. It's a thing they do and I'm not sure it gets fixed.

Probably not at this point. You have a freshman PG and a SG playing PG out of necessity. Holmes is a good player, but he is a mediocre point guard. He is much better suited off the ball which is why Tamin is such a key piece when he is playing well.
 
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Odds are he was going to come back down. We have 4.5 years of percentages to go off of, and as much as I hoped he would keep it up, it was never likely. Not to mention, teams will key much harder on him now. They need him to be a difference maker, hopefully he can do it.
Probably fair. I kept waiting for him to come back to earth but he just kept playing so well for so many games that I thought maybe something clicked.
 
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Way up there
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