Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[KnappShack]

So I'm getting the impression that the Pac is a victim of their own arrogance.

Lack of leadership.
Over inflated perceived value.
Lack of media savvy.
Missed opportunities.
Poor management.

Now they pull two desperation cards out with SMU and SDSU.

I like the old PAC 10. It was a fun conference to watch with long rivalries and a it had the feel of college football.

It's a goddam shame what's happening to it. At best it'll be a shell of its former self. Very good chance it won't exist, but I do believe they keep it together somehow

 

[Gonzo]

Lack of leadership.
Over inflated perceived value.
Lack of media savvy.
Missed opportunities.
Poor management.

Now they pull two desperation cards out with SMU and SDSU.

I like the old PAC 10. It was a fun conference to watch with long rivalries and a it had the feel of college football.

It's a goddam shame what's happening to it. At best it'll be a shell of its former self. Very good chance it won't exist, but I do believe they keep it together somehow

Their only hope is a merger of some sort with the ACC.

 

[Nor'MidWester]

The way I understand it, there are only so many TV slots for football games by the networks. On a college football day, you generally have 3-4 slots. Noon, Mid afternoon, Prime time, and sometimes late night.

The media networks are trying to find games to fill those slots, so as the SEC and Big 10 fill up those inventory of slots, it becomes more scarce for the Big12 and PAC to take the rest. Since we jumped the gun and beat the PAC to it, there may be less interest by other media partners due to less available inventory to sell.

Why are there fewer slots now? Are media companies weening off of cfb?

 

[CascadeClone]

Finally some clarity and sounds like most media people are aligning that Amazon wants the Pac12's top game, ESPN would be interested in Pac12 at 9:30p CT and willing to add Pac12 tier3 to ESPN+.

Did some back of envelope math, and that really sounds like $20M per team annual at the most, miles away from what they are asking. And adding SMU and SDSt isn't going to move the needle at all really.

 

[Cyclonepride]

It wouldn’t take much to pry me away from UCLA vs MSU or USC vs Rutgers. It’s not like the late slot games would all be marquee matchups.

Yeah, me either, and I'm pretty sure those are the late night matchups that we would get. I have a hard time imagining that we'd have a USC/Ohio State game on at 10 eastern

 

[KnappShack]

Our boy

 

[KnappShack]

Their only hope is a merger of some sort with the ACC.

I'd go for an "alliance". Those work pretty well

 

[WhoISthis]

If I'm in the PAC and I'm not Wazzu or Oregon State, I'm wondering why I'm in the PAC.

There’s no question that the top 4-6 PAC schools can get more joining the Big 12. Whatever room is left in the market effectively gets concentrated on to them as the late night portion of Big 12….plus more potential for good matchups outside the apathetic west coast viewers

 

[WhoISthis]

Why are there fewer slots now? Are media companies weening off of cfb?

In part because of consolidation.

The SEC and BIG grabbed the teams that networks used to need to pay a conference to get. Those tv spots went with the schools and into the new deals of the P2. That’s how the P2 expansion is being paid for- a consolidation of the best linear time slots to two conferences

 

[LLCoolCY]

B12 Commish on PAC10 enemy ground.

 

[Hestia_Abnegation11]

Probably unrelated to anything, but still notable.

 

[TheHelgo]

I just listened to the Yormark interview. He said GOR has been signed by all 12 institutions. That is key information that I don't think we knew until now.

 

[Scruff]

B12 Commish on PAC10 enemy ground.

Great hearing Yormark's vision.

 

[BCClone]

Couldn’t that be Anti-trust?

You mean if he’s asking fox what they would pay if AZ or Oregon joined our conference? It’s all hypothetical. Things like that would not be anti trust.

 

[BryceC]

Their only hope is a merger of some sort with the ACC.

But ESPN owns the ACC whole cloth. They have all the rights. Again, it makes no sense for them to merge from ESPN’s perspective, so they won’t.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Why are there fewer slots now? Are media companies weening off of cfb?

There have only ever been those slots that mattered. There are plenty of more slots but they are on side networks like BTN, FS1, Peacock, etc. Those other network spots never do very well even with major names attached. Really the networks are only making real money off the 3 (some would argue 4) time slots

 

[alenz95]

I think Arizona and Arizona State add value, but I wouldn’t expand beyond that. Wait for possible ACC adds down road. If Oregon and Washington are really an option, add them too.

The hard thing with this approach is that you don't want to leave enough viable schools left to merge with the remainders of whatever ends up happening with the ACC. The approach really has to be kill the Pac-12 now, and deal with the next round when we get there.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

The hard thing with this approach is that you don't want to leave enough viable schools left to merge with the remainders of whatever ends up happening with the ACC. The approach really has to be kill the Pac-12 now, and deal with the next round when we get there.

Why do you want to kill the Pac12? I get not liking them after they **** on the Big12 non stop but you should really be hoping they stick around. The ACC raid is still a decade away

 

[Clonehomer]

Why do you want to kill the Pac12? I get not liking them after they **** on the Big12 non stop but you should really be hoping they stick around. The ACC raid is still a decade away

Don't need to kill them. Just put them at a Mountain West level of competitiveness.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Don't need to kill them. Just put them at a Mountain West level of competitiveness.

You really don’t want that either though as that will inevitably be bad for the Big12 if they are viewed as a non power 5 and being equal to the MW is not being in the P5.