Big 12 Conference Realignment

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Unequal Revenue Sharing has worked in which Conferences?

Big Ten and SEC share equally. The unequal distribution eventually leads to the Conference unrest and lack of commitment.

UW and UO will find that you need opponents to play. So they need the Conference as much as anyone else. No uneven distribution. The couple million is not worth the division it creates.
This...Otherwise, why wouldn't the bluest of the blue bloods just go independent and keep ALL the money like Notre Dame does?
 

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If I were Oregon and Washington, I'd stay in he PAC for now. Much easier road to the playoffs.
As a fan of sports you are absolutely correct. However sports competition and post season paths do not dictate what school goes to what conference.

Realignment is fully driven by the almighty dollar. If it were about the easiest path to the playoffs OU, Texa$$, UCLA, and USC would all still be in their respective conferences. The fact of the matter is OU, Texa$$, and the SEC and UCLA, USC, and the B1G all thought it financial beneficial to team up.

This will be the same case for Oregon and Washington. If they find a conference who they feel would be financially beneficial and that conference agrees then that's where they'll be. As it stands it would appear they are holding out for the B1G because the schools see them as financially beneficial to them. I'm not sure the B1G shares that sentiment. Likewise with the Big 12. I think the Big 12 sees Oregon and Washington financially beneficial but I don't think the schools see it as an upgrade from the PAC. So they'll wait until they get a call from B1G or they get the full bid from the PAC. If that bid comes in to low then they may just bite the bullet and jump to the B12.
 
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To be fair though, the money difference between the Big12 and SEC is a lot more than the difference between the Big12 and PAC.
I dont know....technically you are right...but in the end the overall loss of income and exposure they may face being on only streaming may be just as big of an impact.

For instance the Reported $18M deal for Apple, if that is correct. Being stuck on only streaming, loss of exposure and $14M behind the B12 at least.

Not to mention that the B12 deal could increase adding the west coast. So that 14M could get much higher.

Maybe the Apple deal is much better than reported. But still there is the loss of exposure. And no one is saying it will be as good as the B12 deal at this point.
 

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This...Otherwise, why wouldn't the bluest of the blue bloods just go independent and keep ALL the money like Notre Dame does?
Notre Dame doesn’t make a ton from media contracts. After the B1G got their deal, and again tried enticing ND… ND went to NBC and asked for a substantial raise from the current contract.
 

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To be fair though, the money difference between the Big12 and SEC is a lot more than the difference between the Big12 and PAC.
I know we talk a lot about the money, and I get that it gives Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, etc a leg up…but I’d way rather be in our shoes (and receive the money we do) than to be a fan of Missouri or Arkansas (and let’s not even get started with Vanderbilt). What good does the money do those schools? It literally has to feel the same as it did for us in the 80s…but with a nicer stadium and jerseys.
 
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Question,,, idk if it’s been answered.. what happens to BYU-TV? i dont have to subscribe to this **** to watch 1 game a year right? will they continue non rev sports/ university stuff... and all big stuff on big12 network?
The Big12 doesn’t have T3 rights anymore, so all games are on ESPN or Fox channels. Well, at least starting after OuuT leave for sure.
 
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Question,,, idk if its been answered.. what happens to BYU-TV? i dont have to subscribe to this **** to watch 1 game a year right? will they continue non rev sports/ university stuff... and all big stuff on big12 network?

I'm sure it'll continue as it isn't there solely for sports. I guess it could show ISU in sports that wouldn't be televised otherwise, but it's pretty safe to say that the LHN fiasco won't be duplicated.
 
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The Big12 doesn’t have T3 rights anymore, so all games are on ESPN or Fox channels. Well, at least starting after OuuT leave for sure.
one of my gripes was the the Big 12 does t have its own network. Maybe that is something that comes out of this new deal? I mean Big 12 now is a start but would prefer the better exposure on having a network.
 

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one of my gripes was the the Big 12 does t have its own network. Maybe that is something that comes out of this new deal? I mean Big 12 now is a start but would prefer the better exposure on having a network.

Issue is that you need a partner that has the power to force it on cable networks to be successful. The PAC didn't have that power and their network has been a financial drain on the conference. The SEC and ACC have had ESPN forcibly packaging those with their main network so cable companies have to take it. But I can't say how successful they have been for ESPN. The days of the Big10 forcing their network on people and making bank seems to have already peaked.

Without the volumes coming from being on basic cable packages, you have to make up for that with a high cost. Maybe that could be done, but it seems like a tough sell for tier 3 rights.

I think the better route is to negotiate with ESPN minimum quality requirements with ESPN+. Paying $10 a month through the sprouts season isn't a big deal to me if the quality were up to the standards of the main network. I'd have preferred to go the Big10 route and dump ESPN so we could all dump the cable/streaming packages and still watch ISU, but the conference just didn't have that option.
 

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one of my gripes was the the Big 12 does t have its own network. Maybe that is something that comes out of this new deal? I mean Big 12 now is a start but would prefer the better exposure on having a network.
PAC, SEC, and ACC networks don’t do well. The B1G is the only one with it set up properly.
 

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I get your point with the Texas schools. My thought was having more guaranteed games out of state would increase the recruiting footprint for all schools. Plus splitting the Texas schools gives more teams the opportunity to visit Texas regularly.
That's a good point and something I would like to see. Perhaps I'm too accustomed to the bully schools (You know who I mean) forcing us into things we don't want to do.
 

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On3 has an article about Florida State discussing being in the ACC. They feel it would cost them $120M to leave the ACC. They also said they are under compensated by $30M a year by staying in the ACC.