Part of that is probably before the internet you didn’t have the same types of conversations with other cyclone fans so there isn’t the same evidence.
Plus, I still think the number is fairly small
Caleb Grill has been dismissed from team
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Plus, I still think the number is fairly small
The question I have is was there any of this "team cancer" shown before the injury? I don't recall even a hint of this sort of thing prior to this year. Guys like Rasir and other previous incidents like this there was definitely whispers, chatter and comments from teammates that made it evident. If the injury was the onset of the other issues it seems like a missed opportunity to get him physically and mentally healthy. It almost seems like there was pressure to get him healthy and back on the court due to the pressure to win more games. Again, I don't know anything and most likely all options were exhausted, and it had to happen this way.
Pretty sure athletes for decades were seen driving nice new cars around Ames.
The Troy Davis's, Marcus Fizers, Craig Brackins, Talen Horton Tuckers etc. etc...totally came to ISU for free. We're ISU, we don't cheat. Higher standards, do things right........ Blah blah blah......
My favorite line in all movies: "Assumption is the mother of all F*&k ups". Just what generation do you think I'm in? And, to my point, I do NOT condone it. What point are you trying to make? Are you justifying it or are you passing the blame? Cause either answer puts you in a specific generation.
Yeah. had a guy work for me once, was an all american and legend in town. He said, one day; over beers, he would walk off the court, shake hands with boosters, each one having palmed to him a c-note. He'd have 5 or 6 by the time he got to the locker room. He played in the early sixties. They (players) didn,t look at it as cheating per se, just the way fandom appreciated their performance, and how they repped their school; they did know it was against the rules, but as he said; so is going 5 MPH over the speed limit.
EDIT: he was not a Cyclone!
The football players all lived at Towers back in early 1980’s. One of the better known players drove a new Lincoln Continental. He would pull over to offer me and others a ride to class and that was always a hard no.
I think the convenience store off Welch was a 7-11 then and several players would just take stuff and leave without any attempt to stop them.
No real substance in his words but you can tell it was hard on TJ too.
If this is accurate, and I have no reason to doubt your knowledge of the situation, why let Caleb make a choice, then allow the team to overrule that choice?
Exactly. Which is why all of these stories floating around are versions of the truth and not the whole truth. Which is fine, but let's just acknowledge it.
CycloneErik
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Of course not. We'd only have a couple guys giving him $5 apiece.
I’d much rather our players not be suffering from severe mental problems to the point where they consider killing them selves than us winning.
I can't understand how anyone could say they didn't realize there was a problem. Grill has unfortunately been nothing but a problem since the Texas win and his injury, and I don't just mean his play. One of my favorite players, hope he comes out better for this in the end.
Stop mocking someone's mental illness, you idiotic troll ************.
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Sorry to see Caleb go and how all this went down. I kind of sensed something was off with him a little prior to his back injury. His actions and attitude just seemed off. I appreciate what he has done for this team and university and wish him nothing but the best! Having been through some anxiety and depression myself, mental health is no joke. It can cloud your attitude, understanding, comprehension, judgement, steal your happiness, confidence and much more. So I definitely empathize. I hope he seeks out help while he's healing both physically and mentally. He took a great first step in admission and putting himself out there on twitter. Not many would know or understand the likely pressure and weight of the world that he may have felt as an athlete. I sure don't. He's young and will hopefully learn and grow with amazing support around him. He will always remain a cyclone.
Many can speculate, some may know the truth or partial truths. It sucks that it seemed to be a distraction to the success or play of the team. Hopefully they can focus now on what they need to and get back to playing better. Sometimes stuff like this puts our own life in check and realize what's important in our life and those around us. We never know what someone is going through in this world.
Many can speculate, some may know the truth or partial truths. It sucks that it seemed to be a distraction to the success or play of the team. Hopefully they can focus now on what they need to and get back to playing better. Sometimes stuff like this puts our own life in check and realize what's important in our life and those around us. We never know what someone is going through in this world.
Is there a chance Caleb would be allowed back on the team after his apology for the NCAA tournament? or is he long gone? also, who takes his minutes from the guard perspective? we need someone to step up and make a few 3's a game. Terrible timing. Eli King, Watson?
KidSilverhair
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While complaining about ISU expecting them to wear a specific color of shirt to the game
