So they're firmly entrenched in the PAC?
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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So they're firmly entrenched in the PAC?
Idk but an P5 AD quote tweeting MHver is hilarious
Clearly that means the vote already happened. Welcome back, Colorado
Anyone believing that the MHver account or Swaim knows anything is a ********. Both just guess things.
MHver has somehow worked his way into getting some legit information. Swaim is full of ****.
He's still mainly guessing about everything. Or he'll couch everything in ways that he can't be proven wrong. No one should rely on him for anything.
This. He doesn’t get things right, he just frames everything under hypotheticals and pretenses so that if something actually happens it looks like he was sourced in, but he has an out if it doesn’t.
That could be any number of things. But it's gotta be they are clearing the way for a vote to move. No other possibility is nearly as much fun.
I love how the PAC brigade took that tweet from the CU AD replying to MHver (lol) and made it into “See, CU isn’t leaving, the AD just totally squashed it!”.
You’re trying to take on Big 12 people on our home field, “Realignment Stadium”, AND WE ALL KNOW HOW THIS WORKS.
It seems like the messaging from many national media sources has transitioned and the Pac12's demise as a fait accompli. And the passion by Pac12 media folks promoting the conference will stay together is gone.
IMO it is less about the Big12 poaching Pac12 schools from a long-term viable enitity, but more the realization Oregon & Washington want out in the worst way. Why stay in a relationship for 3 or 6 more years that will crumble eventually.
Get out while the gettin's good. AKA don't wait for the Big10 to poach because then Colorado, Arizona, etc. may lose negotiating power with the Big12 for full shares or be left out to join the MWC.
IMO it is less about the Big12 poaching Pac12 schools from a long-term viable enitity, but more the realization Oregon & Washington want out in the worst way. Why stay in a relationship for 3 or 6 more years that will crumble eventually.
Get out while the gettin's good. AKA don't wait for the Big10 to poach because then Colorado, Arizona, etc. may lose negotiating power with the Big12 for full shares or be left out to join the MWC.
If the B12 is going to offer the most money and exposure over the next 5-10 years, and the B12 is also the best-case-scenario should WAOR get a B10 invite, I don't see how you pass that up. An offer now doesn't guarantee an offer in the future, particularly when/if ACC schools are on the market.
At some point in the next couple of months, there's a very real deadline for schools to put things in motion to make a conference change for the '24-25 season. They have time in the sense that their contract runs for another year, but institutions don't turn on a dime and making a conference change is a whole lot more than just who you're playing. Passing that deadline would mean losing basically all leverage with the networks - they'd know the schools no longer have a choice and will have to take whatever they can get.
My guess is by early July, the PAC will have a deal, schools will move, or everyone's decided to go down with the ship for the next media deal.
There has been alot of risk assumption being made by the PAC, most of which has not offered positive reward. The schools are at the mercy of the conference, until they are not. Each school now has an easy way out without financial risk. The school will need to evaluate and determine if loyalty to the conference trumps financial upset. The biggest issue raised above is you have a life raft now. Markets will change in 3-5 years, are you willing to sign a lower deal now hoping the PAC survives, and if not the raft still has air in it. Especially knowing Wash and OR want out ASAP.
I don’t think it’s ever really been about the Big 12 “poaching” PAC 12 schools. All things being equal the PAC would prefer to stick together. No question. There isn’t any real want from any school to move to the Big 12, otherwise they would have already.
But things aren’t equal. It’s clear as day the PAC 12 will take a hit on money, exposure, or both on this next media deal compared to the Big 12. They also have 2 schools that are a very real threat to leave for greener pastures at some point within the next 5 or 6 years. So, then it’s just an internal wrestling match of ok; do we do what we want to do personally, or do what we should do financially
