The opposite is equally true:
Just because someone is upset with their current predicament doesn't mean they don't have the power to change it.
That's why we have lawyers and politicians!!!
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Just because someone is upset with their current predicament doesn't mean they don't have the power to change it.
That's why we have lawyers and politicians!!!
And shifty lawyers. I said shifty.
(Not all lawyers are shifty). Just covering my Butt,You have an incredible knack for ambiguity.
This isn’t OUT or the LA schools leaving where they can do it fairly simply. This is going to take a massive legal battle that could span years even before getting into appeals. Even leaking a plan doesn’t matter because it’s happening in a court of law.
Pac 12 trying to get a bidding war between Ion and the CW
Its a legal document, on what grounds can this be "broken"? They made a ****** decision, just because you did that doesn't mean you can just get out of it.
I'm sure Florida State has many talented lawyers that would love to answer that question for you.
The AI's out there answer these questions like a high school freshman in comp class.
I'm failing to see the genius here.
Patrick Crakes, former Fox media guy, was on 365 Sports today. He said there isn't any value in expansion for anybody (he probably meant in the current rumored teams). Thus, this means CU, AZ, ASU. He also said the PAC will come out fine. I agree. I still think a very low chance any PAC schools come to the Big 12.
ehhh, there's a reason they had to bring back Iger. Not sure why they get a rep for being impeccable on money.
While adding PAC teams to the Big 12 may not increase the annual share of TV revenue that each Big 12 team will receive, it adds significantly to the life expectancy of the Big 12 conference. I'd say that's added value.
Yeah I think adding CO and AZ is more about killing the Pac12
Locked On Big 12 has summed it up well - are you willing to give up a rather insignificant sum for your university to guarantee your conference survives; the answer for every Big 12 school is an overwhelming “yes”
Completely agree.
Longer term risk—expansion does create more “mouths to feed”. I believe BY’s (or the next commissioner) career willl be judged by the next media deal the big 12 gets, not the one we just got.
I think there is some truth to this. The Pac still doesn't have a TV deal presumably because the offers suck. The offers suck because their teams don't draw. The 4 corners schools are the middle of the pack in conference as far as value. So how much money could the B12 make by acquiring mid tier schools from a conference worth significantly less than our own? Maybe that doesn't make us any money at all.
Perhaps the more likely angle is to kill the Pac as a future competitor. But maybe that isn't necessary either. With USC and UCLA gone and no great expansion candidates, maybe the are so wounded already that they won't ever be a threat to the B12.
I'd rather have some consistency as a conference rather than increase my overall $$.
Those schools could leave for the same amount of money but be in a conference where it's teams aren't looking to jump somewhere every other year.
The Grant of Rights are in place as much for the TV networks as the schools/conferences. Networks essentially require them during the broadcasting rights negotiations and as we saw with OUT leaving the Big 12, it was the TV networks that were doing a lot of the work on the buyout so that they were made whole from lost/changed broadcast inventory.
So I fail to see why ESPN would lose a good deal with the current ACC members to pay some of them more in the SEC and likely reopen the ACC TV contract in the process. The only option I see for current ACC members is getting the current Grant of Rights nullified in the courts (which seems unlikely) or move to the Big 10 and use the increased conference revenue to offset the large exit fee.
So I fail to see why ESPN would lose a good deal with the current ACC members to pay some of them more in the SEC and likely reopen the ACC TV contract in the process. The only option I see for current ACC members is getting the current Grant of Rights nullified in the courts (which seems unlikely) or move to the Big 10 and use the increased conference revenue to offset the large exit fee.
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So is the PAC 12 just going to carry on without a media deal when their current one runs out? ESPN/Fox are basically forcing them to break apart.
AZ is Yormarks golden goose, they make the league better for BBall while being a state flagship and already having p5 football. If Gonzaga even had G5 football they’d already be in the conference in my opinion. If you gotta pry Colorado loose to get Zona you do it. In an ideal world the sec and big 10 are told that anymore expansion dilutes their product forever so no more realignment. This causes Oregon and Washington to move to big 12 to be in power conference # 3 and brings us to 16.
