Way too early starting lineup talk for the 23-24 season

ClonerJams

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Impatiently waiting to see what happens in the portal, and already excited and wanting to talk about next year. My prediction today for starting lineup by Big 12 play is:
PG - Lipsey
SG - Transfer
SF - Momcilovic
PF - Biliew
C - King

Backup PG - Williams
Backup SG - Watson/Hamilton
Backup SF - Watson
Backup PF - Ward/Fish
Backup C - Jones/Ward

Momcilovic is too skilled offensively to not start, but he probably wont at the beginning of the year.

King at ony 6'7 playing the 5 could be interesting, but he's a junkyard dog and very capable.
Now that the roster is finalized, I'm going:
Lipsey
Gilbert
Pav
Biliew
King

Lots of bench minutes to Momcilovic, Ward, and Jones
 

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Is that based on anything the coaches said or just speculation? Coming from a much lower level of competition and given his smaller size, I think he's going to have the biggest challenge in adjusting to the physicality of the game, whereas Gilbert and Jones come in better equipped in that regard. I mean, Pav is just one year removed from having no P5 interest out of HS. I think he'll be offensive firepower off the bench, but struggle a bit defensively and be more of a role player this year and then a bigger star the next year
Maybe a bit speculation.

But this kid was drawing some interest from big schools. For a kid who shoots 40% from 3, 85% from the free throw line, and 50% FG shooter- he's coming in to play and play a lot.

I personally think the competition argument is a bit of a stretch. Now the physicality? That would be the one thing he'd have to adjust to but he's still 6'3 - 175 pounds. He might not defend like were used to having from our guards but his offensive prowess more than makes up for it, imo.
 

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What are the thoughts on TJ just doing rotational chaos all year like he did in our slump this year? CEO plays 5 min a game
 

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By the time next season starts all of these transfers will have added 10-15 pounds after 7-8 months in our program. So when analyzing these guys currently their weight should have an asterisk. The coaching staff is well aware of their current size and flaws, I’m sure they have a plan in place to get them where they need to be come conference play. Physicality should not be an issue IMO. It’s a process and there is a vision.
 

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What are the thoughts on TJ just doing rotational chaos all year like he did in our slump this year? CEO plays 5 min a game
I think, from a team morale perspective, playing everyone at least a couple minutes (except walk-ons) is a great approach. You need everyone to be ready all the time, so it makes a lot of sense
 

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I think, from a team morale perspective, playing everyone at least a couple minutes (except walk-ons) is a great approach. You need everyone to be ready all the time, so it makes a lot of sense
I personally love it. Play em all.
 
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Now that the roster is finalized, I'm going:
Lipsey
Gilbert
Pav
Biliew
King

Lots of bench minutes to Momcilovic, Ward, and Jones
No that it matter but Pav would be guarding 1's and 2's not 3's so I'd switch Pav and Gilbert around
 

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A concern with the current roster is King is really the only reliable low post scorer. Milan might have skills but probably not the body. Omaha doesn't appear be that type of player.
 

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In all the years of mbb lineup threads, this one is the biggest crapshoot I can ever recall.

Between the four frosh, 3 transfers, and J williams we have 8 players who've never set foot on the floor in Hilton, Throw in King who only got a semester and Ward who got limited minutes in most games.

I calculate we're only returning 23% of our minutes from last year.

I think TJ plays 9 guys significant minutes, the rest will have to be patient.

Lipsey
Pav
Gilbert
Biliew
King

And then big minutes for Jones, Momcilovic, Watson, and Ward.

Spot minutes for BRE, unless he beats out Ward again.

TBD: Hamilton, Fish, and J Williams (hope he can recover 100%).
 

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If Omaha's shooting translates to this level we will have a lot of flexibility with our lineups. If not, he will need to play the 4/5 most of the time. Having Lipsey, King, and R. Jones as major rotational pieces as well as Ward and Watson factoring in means we need as much shooting as we can get out of the other spots. Hopefully Lipsey and Watson develop some consistency and confidence with their shooting.
1- Lipsey- 32 MPG
2- Gilbert- 26 MPG
3. C. Jones- 26 MPG
4- Biliew- 26 MPG
5- R. Jones- 20 MPG
6- King- 26 MPG
7- Watson- 16 MPG
8- Pav- 14 MPG
9- Momcilovic- 14 MPG
10- Williams- rotational
11- Ward- rotational
If Rob Jones is playing 20 MPG we are in BIG trouble. Ideally more in the 10 range.
 

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If Rob Jones is playing 20 MPG we are in BIG trouble. Ideally more in the 10 range.
For some reason I just can't keep myself away from Robert Jones discourse.

This season, Jones averaged 17 MPG, 9 games with at least 20 minutes and 18 with at least 17 minutes. In the 9 games with at least 20 minutes, Iowa State went 6-3. In the 18 games with at least 17 minutes, Iowa State went 12-6. And no, those records aren't because those games were only against non-conference cupcakes (Western Michigan was the only non-power 6 opponent of the 9 games he played more than 20 minutes).

Obviously it's correlation and not causation, but it seems like hyperbole to say "we are in BIG trouble" if he plays 20 minutes a game considering they did fine (better than the season record actually) when he did this year.
 

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For some reason I just can't keep myself away from Robert Jones discourse.

This season, Jones averaged 17 MPG, 9 games with at least 20 minutes and 18 with at least 17 minutes. In the 9 games with at least 20 minutes, Iowa State went 6-3. In the 18 games with at least 17 minutes, Iowa State went 12-6. And no, those records aren't because those games were only against non-conference cupcakes (Western Michigan was the only non-power 6 opponent of the 9 games he played more than 20 minutes).

Obviously it's correlation and not causation, but it seems like hyperbole to say "we are in BIG trouble" if he plays 20 minutes a game considering they did fine (better than the season record actually) when he did this year.
Clearly this supports BRE the foundation for the great success next season. It's a fact!
 
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If Omaha's shooting translates to this level we will have a lot of flexibility with our lineups. If not, he will need to play the 4/5 most of the time. Having Lipsey, King, and R. Jones as major rotational pieces as well as Ward and Watson factoring in means we need as much shooting as we can get out of the other spots. Hopefully Lipsey and Watson develop some consistency and confidence with their shooting.
1- Lipsey- 32 MPG
2- Gilbert- 26 MPG
3. C. Jones- 26 MPG
4- Biliew- 26 MPG
5- R. Jones- 20 MPG
6- King- 26 MPG
7- Watson- 16 MPG
8- Pav- 14 MPG
9- Momcilovic- 14 MPG
10- Williams- rotational
11- Ward- rotational
I gotta believe if Ward is coming back, he was told he'd get more playing time this season. I'd guess BRE and Ward get around 15 mpg each and the other 10 will be a small ball lineup
 

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BRE has shown he'll likely be in early foul trouble in most games... and I don't see that changing.

That's why I kinda wish TJ had brought in another big with Curtis Jones' scholarship. Nothing against Jones whatsoever, it's just my opinion that our roster needed another big more than another guard.
 

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BRE has shown he'll likely be in early foul trouble in most games... and I don't see that changing.

That's why I kinda wish TJ had brought in another big with Curtis Jones' scholarship. Nothing against Jones whatsoever, it's just my opinion that our roster needed another big more than another guard.
The downside of portal recruiting is the window is short and athlete interest must be immediate as there is no time to develop a relationship.

By not bringing in a post for even a visit, gotta believe TJ and staff are comfortable going with the low post trio of King, Ward and Rob Jones.

IMO the staff is comfortable with that trio because Biliew and Momcilovic are elite freshman and the staff is going to give them significant minutes to develop by being thrown into the fire.

I also feel Omaha is elite athletically and can play spots 3-5 offensively AND defensively depending on opponent matchups.
 

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