I am now going to be sweating my big bet on ISU under 5.5 wins this year. Irony.
Gamblin…Smoke and Fire
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Exactly!! Placed my under 5.5 wager a few weeks back hoping to get out in front of any news and get the best number… didn’t expect THIS news tho.
Certainly won’t be upset if the bet loses tho.
Good on the NCAA for adopting nuance to their gambling policy, which was sorely needed despite what some believed.
No effect on basketball. The one player involved is no longer on the roster.
Football punishments look significantly lighter. We (or at least I) don't know the individual sums that were bet and on what sports, but it's reasonable to assume we will get most of these guys back early in the season.
Go back to my post from yesterday morning. UNTIL the DCI report is delivered to Iowa State, the amounts of what was gambled, and on what sports is still unknown. UNTIL that report is delivered, NOBODY but the DCI and the players know the details that are critical to know punishment.
With that said, the clear outline of reasonable punishments gives hope that nobody was stupid enough to bet on their own games (pretty much already believed) or on other Iowa State athletic events.
Also, remember that this is ONLY the NCAA, not the POTENTIAL for Iowa DCI punishments.
With that said, the clear outline of reasonable punishments gives hope that nobody was stupid enough to bet on their own games (pretty much already believed) or on other Iowa State athletic events.
Also, remember that this is ONLY the NCAA, not the POTENTIAL for Iowa DCI punishments.
This is well said. Hopefully we have guys out for like UNI and that’s it
Other than underage gambling what other Iowa laws would they have broken? My search of the Iowa Code only showed underage gambling as a relevant "crime" for this situation.
May be a stupid question, but do the coaches have discretion as to what games the suspensions apply to? Do the games have to be served consecutively? Can they pick the three games for example?
If I'm the DCI I'm thinking to myself, why the hell are we dealing with this BS.
I'm not sure if this is cryptic or if I just don't really understand. Would the Iowa DCI have the ability to remove a player's eligibility this season? I had thought this was great news, as long as the NCAA says it's good then we can follow these guidelines. Unless you are trying to say the DCI could make things worse
The announcement by the NCAA brings some clarity regarding penalties regarding games sitting.
But I would expect Matt Campbell also will implement interna penalties- so no way anyone linked with gambling would represent ISU in Dallas. First they need to redeem themselves as team leaders and that doesn't happen overnight. Second and more importantly, the last thing ISU wants is our time in front of Big12 media dominated by gambling questions if a Dekkers, Lee, etc. attended.
Nope. The NCAA specified an athlete cannot provide info or have others bet on their behalf.
Although it would probably be tough to ID certain relationships (girlfriend) as long as different ISP being used.
It's curious how the NCAA can have governance authority over betting, but it doesn't with NIL.
The NCAA came out earlier this week questioning some University led NIL's as allowed under Texas law. The A&M AD said A&M would follow Texas law and NOT NCAA guidance/rules. The NCAA needs to grow a pair and tell schools if they voluntarily choose to be NCAA members, they are governed by NCAA rules.
The NCAA came out earlier this week questioning some University led NIL's as allowed under Texas law. The A&M AD said A&M would follow Texas law and NOT NCAA guidance/rules. The NCAA needs to grow a pair and tell schools if they voluntarily choose to be NCAA members, they are governed by NCAA rules.
The DCI couldn't do anything about eligibility, but what the DCI does could impact ISU or NCAA enforced punishments.
The whole DCI angle is hard because to Curt's point and others' understanding of the law, there is no punishable offense so long as the players were of age. The law pertains to the casinos monitoring, not the players, assistants, or coaches betting. However, I've heard some legal viewpoints and concerns from within ISU that interpret things slightly differently, or at least leave enough of an unknown to raise legitimate concerns.
The fact that the DCI is taking so long, even though according to everything I've heard interviews have wrapped up, leaves things in bigger limbo. The majority of the interviews occurred in late May with some spilling over to the first week of June. One would assume that if it was as simple as determining who placed bets while under the legal age, it would have been done by end of May.
The summary is, Iowa State doesn't know the details but is concerned both by the length of time vs a possible report timeline they were originally given, and the fact that some of the initial names provided to them are of persons of legal age.
Question- does Iowa law have different punishments for different betting levels? Or is it is just “athletes a can’t bet”? If just can’t bet - Let’s say a player pleads guilty to a misdemeanor and pays a $100 fine- and part of the plea is the DCI doesn’t release the amount bet. where does that leave Iisu and the NCAA ? Do they just assume under $200? Do the have a way to find out the totals ?
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