Do you think non profitable college athletic programs should give out scholarships?

[FriendlySpartan]

Signed,

$1.75 TRILLION student debt in America

A lot of people go to college that don’t finish, get something worthless, or go to a bad college. Costs are out of control but a lot of people do get scholarships, almost everyone I know that went to a private university got one.

 

[AllInForISU]

Signed,

$1.75 TRILLION student debt in America

You do understand a scholarship doesn’t automatically mean a full ride right?

 

[AllInForISU]

How many athletes get full scholarships? My understanding is a lot of the student athletes in the olympic sports get partial scholarships if they get anything at all. I could be wrong, but that's the impression I have.

“Revenue sports”

 

[loyalson4evatru]

Most PhD’s are either getting paid by the university or getting scholarship/aid. A lot of those sports have fans. ISU seems to love their wrestling, hockey is another big one that doesn’t make money but a lot of people love. Just because you don’t like something or think it provides value doesn’t mean others don’t.

not sure what your point is here. of course SOME people enjoy these sports.

should they be giving out scholarships to the athletes of all these other sports?

that was the question.

there's same level interest in the theater club playing make believe Lord of the Rings in central campus, why aren't the scholarships going to them instead?

 

[DurangoCy]

I think a lot of players in the Rhoads and Prohm era should be paying reparations for my booze addiction.
Let's start there.

 

[Cyforce]

I've never understood why athletes of any sport outside of basketball and football are getting scholarships.

I love sports as much as anyone. But why are any track/wrestling/volleyball/swim&dive/golf student athletes getting a free ride when there's nothing profitable for Athletic Dept.?

Just pride to represent in those sports? Cause....we've always had those sports?

With Athletic Depts focusing more and more on bottom line, these type of questions will start being asked.

I think you have to look at how many students you lose from not having athletic programs. The NCAA requires schools to carry x # of programs to maintain D1 status. If you don't offer those scholarships how many students go elsewhere because they want to go to football and basketball games at the highest level?

 

[FriendlySpartan]

not sure what your point is here. of course SOME people enjoy these sports.

should they be giving out scholarships to the athletes of all these other sports?

that was the question.

there's same level interest in the theater club playing make believe Lord of the Rings in central campus, why aren't the scholarships going to them instead?

Some schools give out theatre scholarships, one of my friends got a full ride to Michigan playing the oboe. There are also quidditch and esports scholarships.

I’m legit not sure what you’re trying to get at here besides saying that these things don’t provide value to you personally so they shouldn’t be getting assistance

 

[AllInForISU]

not sure what your point is here. of course SOME people enjoy these sports.

should they be giving out scholarships to the athletes of all these other sports?

that was the question.

there's same level interest in the theater club playing make believe Lord of the Rings in central campus, why aren't the scholarships going to them instead?

Why would the athletics department pay for something like that? They are already keeping the rest of the Iowa State Center afloat.

 

[Cyrealist]

Nearly all athletic departments are lucky to just break even. I think schools believe it provides a public face for the school. Non-revenue sports are part of that and since the NCAA says scholarships can be given, schools have to give out scholarships to be competitive. Women's non-revenue sports are better funded than men in an attempt to balance out football.

 

[ruxCYtable]

I've never understood why athletes of any sport outside of basketball and football are getting scholarships.

I love sports as much as anyone. But why are any track/wrestling/volleyball/swim&dive/golf student athletes getting a free ride when there's nothing profitable for Athletic Dept.?

Just pride to represent in those sports? Cause....we've always had those sports?

With Athletic Depts focusing more and more on bottom line, these type of questions will start being asked.

Because of this thing called the law.

 

[loyalson4evatru]

Some schools give out theatre scholarships, one of my friends got a full ride to Michigan playing the oboe. There are also quidditch and esports scholarships.

I’m legit not sure what you’re trying to get at here besides saying that these things don’t provide value to you personally so they shouldn’t be getting assistance

you keep mentioning you know someone. your handful of outliers do not represent the entire college student population. but congrats to your private school buddies.

and no most people aren't on scholarships.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

you keep mentioning you know someone. your handful of outliers do not represent the entire college student population. but congrats to your private school buddies.

and no most people aren't on scholarships.

Might want to brush up on that reading comprehension instead of worrying about non revenue sports scholarships. I said “most people attending a private university get some form of scholarship” and that is correct. At least for the legit ones.

 

[AllInForISU]

you keep mentioning you know someone. your handful of outliers do not represent the entire college student population. but congrats to your private school buddies.

and no most people aren't on scholarships.

According to the National Center for Education Statistics, over 85 percent of college students receive some form of financial aid

 

[loyalson4evatru]

Might want to brush up on that reading comprehension instead of worrying about non revenue sports scholarships. I said “most people attending a private university get some form of scholarship” and that is correct. At least for the legit ones.

still don't get the relevance. some complete unknown % of people and unknown $ amount.

keep it classy Sparty! representing well per usual.

 

[AllInForISU]

still don't get the relevance. some complete unknown % of people and unknown $ amount.

keep it classy Sparty! representing well per usual.

What were you trying to accomplish with the original question? You want the AD to fund non-athletes or what? It’s better than the money going to the fired coaches fund.

 

[isufbcurt]

you keep mentioning you know someone. your handful of outliers do not represent the entire college student population. but congrats to your private school buddies.

and no most people aren't on scholarships.

Someone getting a $500 scholarship is still "on scholarship". Now if you want to discuss Full Ride Scholarships that's a completely different animal.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

still don't get the relevance. some complete unknown % of people and unknown $ amount.

keep it classy Sparty! representing well per usual.

Fine I’ll hold your hand. 73% of TCU freshman get merit based scholarships. Want to know how? Just by simply applying to the school, that’s it. That’s all they have to do. It’s like that for every legit private school I know. Almost no one pays full cost unless they are way below standards.

 

[MeowingCows]

Your alternative thread title is "do you believe Title IX should be rescinded?"

 

[CascadeClone]

Fine I’ll hold your hand. 73% of TCU freshman get merit based scholarships. Want to know how? Just by simply applying to the school, that’s it. That’s all they have to do. It’s like that for every legit private school I know. Almost no one pays full cost unless they are way below standards.

Can confirm. My daughter with her very mediocre 2.8ish GPA was offered an "academic" scholarship to a small private college (Monmouth) when she was looking around. It was equal to about $18k iirc.

Love my daughter but she was anything but a standout student at that time (anxiety and other mental health stuff). She got better and now has a Masters!

 

[HarryClone]

How many athletes get full scholarships? My understanding is a lot of the student athletes in the olympic sports get partial scholarships if they get anything at all. I could be wrong, but that's the impression I have.

You're correct. I worked with the swim team at ISU and they had nearly 30 on the roster but I wanna say like 15ish scholarships. A few walk-ons like any sport, and then the coaches spread those scholarships around by quarters and halves.

It was sort of like those graphics where you get $15 to make your best lineup, then it's tiers of players at $5, $4, etc.