ISU Gambling Megathread

[CycloneBob]

These infractions are totally disturbing, actually really piss me off. I've supported ISU football for well over 50 yrs. I was looking forward to this season. Then, along the way, find out that those whom I am supporting don't care about the team - only about themselves.

 

[RezClone]

Armand Bruce basically threw games because he bet the under and was a starting WR that can have a direct impact on such a thing.

How did he make those passes sail so far over his head?

 

[CycloneErik]

Armand Bruce basically threw games because he bet the under and was a starting WR that can have a direct impact on such a thing.

After watching the QB play, he was the most effective thrower Iowa had by far.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Kind of makes you wonder about the nature of the original complaint to DCI. If someone said something to the effect of, "Hey some people at X organization are doing Y illegal activity that they are uniquely and specifically not allowed to do as members of X organization." Then what?

Is it normal for for DCI to have carte blanche investigative authority over every member of X organization for a vague non-specific complaint(s)? Seems kind of like a drag-net 4th amendment type thing if that's the case.

Did the Casinos turn them in? Where they all using the same app? Is this a terms and conditions thing or did the players sign their right to privacy away when it comes to gambling specifically with their scholarship or something? Was there a mole on the inside compiling evidence? Or was every player who is caught up on this thing named specifically and they are the only ones that have been investigated this entire time?

Are you still reading this? Does anybody care? Why does Brian Ferentz still have a job? What size are TJ's shirts anyways. How many bathrooms are in that tiny press box? The over/under has to be at one, right?

I'm guessing the gambling apps have terms and conditions that allow for monitoring, especially of suspicious activity. That was probably what tipped them off. However, I also wonder how many resources that were expended to take down relatively smalltime activities. If I had to guess, they were hoping to dig up something a lot bigger, and once they sank that much time and money into it, felt like they had to do something to justify it.

 

[RezClone]

Armand Bruce basically threw games because he bet the under and was a starting WR that can have a direct impact on such a thing.

If their best receiver was throwing games, then I shutter to think of the size of the fat stacks the rest of that sh**** receiving core has been hammering the under into oblivion with.

EDIT: I advise any other Hok who wants to go down this path to tread carefully... because the jokes write themselves.

 

[ISUAlum2002]

Kind of makes you wonder about the nature of the original complaint to DCI. If someone said something to the effect of, "Hey some people at X organization are doing Y illegal activity that they are uniquely and specifically not allowed to do as members of X organization." Then what?

In listening to Miller & Condon's show on KXNO over the past couple of weeks, their contacts have indicated to them that the entire investigation was kicked off by a report from the mother of that Iowa baseball player who "retired" recently (can't remember his name right off). Apparently he had used her identity to create an account on one of the gambling apps and when he went to load funds onto it, it triggered some kind of notification that went to his mom. Maybe a credit monitoring service or something, not sure. Then she reported it to the authorities, not knowing it was her own son doing it, and when they investigated they found out and got DCI involved and then widened the scope from there.

 

[ISUalways]

Armand Bruce basically threw games because he bet the under and was a starting WR that can have a direct impact on such a thing.

Ronnie Harmon says Hold My Beer.

 

[JM4CY]

Armand Bruce basically threw games because he bet the under and was a starting WR that can have a direct impact on such a thing.

 

[FarminCy]

Armand Bruce basically threw games because he bet the under and was a starting WR that can have a direct impact on such a thing.

So this is the excuse Brian used to keep his job!! That single WR was making the offense garbage to win 100 bucks.

 

[Tailg8er]

Armand Bruce basically threw games because he bet the under and was a starting WR that can have a direct impact on such a thing.

Then he wasn't very good at it, cause he was the one who made the over hit in this instance...

 

[RezClone]

TIL Armand (Arland) Bruce was throwing games by *checks notes* being the best WR on the team???

Look, if that's not some Jedi 5D chess maneuver, then IDK what is.

 

[MartyFine]

Disappointing in terms of the team, and sad in terms of the players throwing it all away.

But why is the government waiting until just yesterday to charge the remaining players?

 

[BCClone]

No **** Sherlock. But it also isn't difficult to see why they tried, unless of course one is being purposely obtuse and harboring a passive aggressive hatred for CMC, perhaps.

Any time you have a four star from Iowa, you have to recruit them. It's a bad look if you don't even make an offer and then not recruit them very hard. HD blew up in camps and had all the physical tools to do the job. He just lacked other qualities it appears now.

 

[iahawks]

If their best receiver was throwing games, then I shutter to think of the size of the fat stacks the rest of that sh**** receiving core has been hammering the under into oblivion with.

EDIT: I advise any other Hok who wants to go down this path to tread carefully... because the jokes write themselves.

Joke all you want, but having a starting WR bet the under for a game he is playing in is very disturbing IMO.

 

[mj4cy]

So I get it's pretty messed up to be betting on games you're playing in, but I would think the punishment of betting against yourself or betting spreads should be much worse than betting your team to outright win.

 

[Jayshellberg]

Th whole situation is extremely disappointing. If the infractions were limited to one or two players, you could contend that they were isolated in nature and not reflective of program. However, when at least five players are involved, including many leaders, this argument is harder to make.

How the coaches and players respond to the situation will say a lot about who they are. As many have said before me, ”adversity doesn’t build character, it reveals it.”

I believe the coaching staff and team will get through this ordeal and be better off in the long run. CMC is a high character individual and I have the utmost confidence in him to lead the program through this unfortunate situation.

 

[iahawks]

So I get it's pretty messed up to be betting on games you're playing in, but I would think the punishment of betting against yourself or betting spreads should be much worse than betting your team to outright win.

They are both wrong and deserve lifetime bans IMO, but yes betting on yourself is a lot better than betting against yourself. But they both affect the integrity of the game.

 

[mj4cy]

They are both wrong and deserve lifetime bans IMO, but yes betting on yourself is a lot better than betting against yourself. But they both affect the integrity of the game.

Oh I agree both affect the integrity of the game, but I wouldn't be for a lifetime ban if betting on yourself to win. It's not changing your approach or effort or letting your team down.....still deserves a steep punishment but not as bad as tanking...just my 2 cents though.

 

[iahawks]

Oh I agree both affect the integrity of the game, but I wouldn't be for a lifetime ban if betting on yourself to win. It's not changing your approach or effort or letting your team down.....still deserves a steep punishment but not as bad as tanking...just my 2 cents though.

What about point shaving though? You can still bet on yourself to win that way.

 

[mj4cy]

What about point shaving though? You can still bet on yourself to win that way.

Agreed. That's what I said in my earliest post. The only time I would consider not a lifetime ban is if you bet on yourself/team to outright win. Yet you still deserve a very harsh penalty for doing it. Otherwise, get the hell out for life.