ISU Gambling Megathread

acoustimac

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Hey at least we know the Great State of Iowa holds itself to a higher standard! Feels great, right guys?

If there's one thing we can ALL agree that will bring this state together in these divided times, it's knee-capping our beloved teams while our competition invents new ways to cheat!

I hope DCI and everyone involved is really proud of itself. This is a fantastic use of Tax dollars just about any way you can slice it. Stopping crime where it counts, giving everyone just warm fuzzy feelings of moral purity and what not.

Edit: and yes it's dumb to bet on your own games, but I promise you that stupidity isn't unique to college athletes in Iowa.
Don’t blame the DCI for doing their jobs. That’s like saying the police should only pay attention to enforcing some laws and ignoring the rest.
 

ZRF

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Why would you shave points if you bet yourself to win? Or maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying..

If I'm an ISU player & bet ISU to win/cover the spread, I'm trying my hardest the entire game to win/cover the spread.. What am I missing?

There are a lot of potential problems with shaving. The potential is there for a player (possibly) to negatively affect the outcome of previous games in order to create (the likelihood of) lower spreads in future games or better payouts as the opponent could be more strongly favored.. The lower the spread, the easier it is to cover. You also don't want guys to get pissy or be bad teammates to players who might have done something that causes the team to lose. Betting on your team creates a lot of potential issues, even when they aren't obvious up front.
 

houjix

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I think the NCAA should encourage this information to be looked at in every state for the sake of the integrity of the game. I can’t believe these kids would bet on their own teams.

I’m worried about when the hammer drops on the rest of the players that there might be a surprise or two.
Online sports wagering is not legal in every state. There's nothing to look at in 13 states, including where some of the biggest CFB programs reside.

 

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Not exactly sure.
There are a lot of potential problems with shaving. The potential is there for a player (possibly) to negatively affect the outcome of previous games in order to create (the likelihood of) lower spreads in future games or better payouts as the opponent could be more strongly favored.. The lower the spread, the easier it is to cover. You also don't want guys to get pissy or be bad teammates to players who might have done something that causes the team to lose. Betting on your team creates a lot of potential issues, even when they aren't obvious up front.
You start allowing these things and before you know it, you will have kids from poor families showing up to practice in Mercedes Benzes. Now a days it could be NIL money though.
 
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Cyched

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I remember in the CyHawk game Bruce stumbled on what would've been a sure TD. This was right before the Pottebaum goal line fumble so it could've easily been the go-ahead/winning TD.

Doesn't look like it's one of the ones he bet on (?), but if people are going to go back and scrutinize his play I could see that one getting brought up. (And I don't think there was anything nefarious, he did just slip).
 

Jer

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CFB players should not be allowed to bet on College football. Period. There are plenty of other things to bet on.
Yeah, it seems to me that the rules can be very black and white - something you don't often see. Don't bet on your own level of sport. Everything else is fine. I don't like all this betting **** dominating everything you see with sports, but keep it simple for what are clearly some stupid people.
 

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Don’t blame the DCI for doing their jobs. That’s like saying the police should only pay attention to enforcing some laws and ignoring the rest.
Yeah, while we all like to point fingers, the DCI is just doing their jobs. Sure, there are probably bigger things they could focus on, but if presented with a likely case of semi-widespread fraud (calling it that for simplicity), they have an obligation to investigate.
 

1UNI2ISU

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The mom thing from an Iowa baseball player is categorically false. Stop getting info from freaking Miller and Condon. They got nationally embarrassed yesterday after they reported that the Big Ten title game was moving to Vegas and every national writer immediately got real confirmation from the Big Ten and shot them down. Those two are so in bed with the books that they went with the mom story to take any scrutiny off the books.

The book noticed suspicious activity and reported it to the DCI as their license says they have to. Failure to do so could literally cost them billions. They aren't going to **** around with the chance at losing their license. The book knows exactly who and exactly where every bet is being placed. This wasn't some witch hunt against athletes. The athletes were dumb enough to do something that triggered the software to say 'something's up here'.
 

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I remember in the CyHawk game Bruce stumbled on what would've been a sure TD. This was right before the Pottebaum goal line fumble so it could've easily been the go-ahead/winning TD.

Doesn't look like it's one of the ones he bet on (?), but if people are going to go back and scrutinize his play I could see that one getting brought up. (And I don't think there was anything nefarious, he did just slip).
I think it was an honest slip as well, but people will still point to that play.
 
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Jer

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I remember in the CyHawk game Bruce stumbled on what would've been a sure TD. This was right before the Pottebaum goal line fumble so it could've easily been the go-ahead/winning TD.

Doesn't look like it's one of the ones he bet on (?), but if people are going to go back and scrutinize his play I could see that one getting brought up. (And I don't think there was anything nefarious, he did just slip).
I think that's explained by him just being a mediocre receiver.
 
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I remember in the CyHawk game Bruce stumbled on what would've been a sure TD. This was right before the Pottebaum goal line fumble so it could've easily been the go-ahead/winning TD.

Doesn't look like it's one of the ones he bet on (?), but if people are going to go back and scrutinize his play I could see that one getting brought up. (And I don't think there was anything nefarious, he did just slip).
Players are not throwing games for $20 on a sports app. They willingly participated in one of the most egregious acts for a college athlete. But dudes aren’t throwing games for pizza money.
 

Cyched

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Yeah, while we all like to point fingers, the DCI is just doing their jobs. Sure, there are probably bigger things they could focus on, but if presented with a likely case of semi-widespread fraud (calling it that for simplicity), they have an obligation to investigate.

From what I understand, the books reported to the DCI? They have to report that stuff, if they find it, to keep their licenses.
 
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Cyched

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Players are not throwing games for $20 on a sports app. They willingly participated in one of the most egregious acts for a college athlete. But dudes aren’t throwing games for pizza money.

Of course not. But there will be some average Joe fans that will harp on that stuff.
 

Cyfan1965

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Like Ron Dayne and his girlfriend driving matching 50,000$ SUV's or BJ Armstrong walking around IC in a fur coat and driving some sports car.
 

Clonehomer

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From what I understand, the books reported to the DCI? They have to report that stuff, if they find it, to keep their licenses.

But these are national books. Be interesting to hear if they’ve ever reported this to authorities in other states.
 

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But these are national books. Be interesting to hear if they’ve ever reported this to authorities in other states.
It depends what authorities exist in other states and how it's regulated. Every state is handling it their own way and may not have the same regulations in place that Iowa does.
 

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