49ers - Brock Purdy - Still and Always #1

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QB is the most important player on a team, and the hardest position to play at a high level in sports today. If you are a Allen, Mahomes or Rodgers, you want to be paid what you consider to be full value for your skills. There just are not too many teams that have won a championship without having a high level QB, and if you have one, you are going to do everything in your power to keep him. Which means paying him 30 to 40 million a year. It's the price of success, hell, look what the Vikings are paying Cousins, and he is a little above average, but the best they can get.

That is what makes Purdy special right now, he is playing at a high level, and is dirt cheap for the next two seasons after this. The 49ers have the ability to use that money that they are not paying Purdy and go out and get better players at other positions and pay them well. It's not going to last forever, the closer Purdy gets to FA, the more money the 49ers will be forced to pay him if he continues to produce at a high level.
Cousins is a little above average. He was voted like the 6th best in the league by his peers. Certainly would say that puts him closer to elite than average.
 
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Cousins is a little above average. He was voted like the 6th best in the league by his peers. Certainly would say that puts him closer to elite than average.
He might be closer to elite than average, but it's a huge gap between him and say Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, Burrows and the guy with the Chargers. Those QB's are elite, Cousins is just good, and while making a ton of money, has really won nothing to speak of in his time in the league. The Vikings would trade Cousins in a heartbeat for one of the other QB's I listed and be a better team for it.

I am not ripping on Cousins, but he is like Dac, just good enough to get your hopes up, but in the end, not great enough to go out and win the game on his own. No defensive coordinator is game planning to stop Cousins, like they are with the others on the list.
 

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He might be closer to elite than average, but it's a huge gap between him and say Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, Burrows and the guy with the Chargers. Those QB's are elite, Cousins is just good, and while making a ton of money, has really won nothing to speak of in his time in the league. The Vikings would trade Cousins in a heartbeat for one of the other QB's I listed and be a better team for it.

I am not ripping on Cousins, but he is like Dac, just good enough to get your hopes up, but in the end, not great enough to go out and win the game on his own. No defensive coordinator is game planning to stop Cousins, like they are with the others on the list.
I'd say you're right on that top 5, although it's possible that Rodgers is falling off due to age. But behind that group, it's just guys that can do well given the weapons.
 

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I'd say you're right on that top 5, although it's possible that Rodgers is falling off due to age. But behind that group, it's just guys that can do well given the weapons.
Rodgers is entering the stage in his career, much like Brady, Manning and Elway before him that he can continue to play at a high level because he has seen it all before. So, while is athletic skills are not what they once were, he sees and understands what the defense is doing and has a counter to it.

If you have been watching Hard Knocks, you can see that when he is talking to Wilson, the young QB that started last year. He is coaching Wilson, by showing and telling him what to look for when this or that happens. Top QB's know who is going to be open when they get to the line and put a player in motion. They read how the defense reacts to the motion man, and then know which receiver they are going to throw the ball too. Younger QB's struggle with that, some never learn it, but the great ones, can continue on even when their skills are going down, just on that knowledge alone.
 

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Rodgers is entering the stage in his career, much like Brady, Manning and Elway before him that he can continue to play at a high level because he has seen it all before. So, while is athletic skills are not what they once were, he sees and understands what the defense is doing and has a counter to it.

If you have been watching Hard Knocks, you can see that when he is talking to Wilson, the young QB that started last year. He is coaching Wilson, by showing and telling him what to look for when this or that happens. Top QB's know who is going to be open when they get to the line and put a player in motion. They read how the defense reacts to the motion man, and then know which receiver they are going to throw the ball too. Younger QB's struggle with that, some never learn it, but the great ones, can continue on even when their skills are going down, just on that knowledge alone.

Peyton Manning was atrocious in 2015, his team won the Super Bowl in spite of him.
 
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Man, NFL twitter is brutal. Every time someone posts something about Purdy, people come out of the woodwork bashing him...saying he's mid, my mom can make that pass, checkdown merchant. I get that he's in a good system and doesn't have a big arm, but he's making it work AND coming off a major surgery. Then there's the Trey Lance apologists who jump at every opportunity to say that their guy isn't getting a fair shake.

Would Purdy be good without a pro-bowl RB, WR and TE? Maybe not, but he's also going to be in the league a long time even if it's as a backup down the line.

It's ironic - if anyone's mother could run that 49ers offense... why was it best under Purdy's control, and why was the NFC championship game effectively over the moment Purdy blew out his elbow? But they'll never answer those questions.
 

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It's ironic - if anyone's mother could run that 49ers offense... why was it best under Purdy's control, and why was the NFC championship game effectively over the moment Purdy blew out his elbow? But they'll never answer those questions.

People said Tom Brady was a system QB…then he won a Super Bowl at 43 with the Bucs and the Patriots have been crap since he left. Haters gonna hate.

If he wasn’t any good, Shannahan wouldn’t be risking his career on him.
 

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Peyton Manning was atrocious in 2015, his team won the Super Bowl in spite of him.
True, but he was also hurt and missed 6 games with plantar fascia in his left foot. Was it his injury or age that caused the drop? Maybe a little of both, they are people not machines, but to compare Manning with someone like Cousins, is laughable at best.
 
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Man, NFL twitter is brutal. Every time someone posts something about Purdy, people come out of the woodwork bashing him...saying he's mid, my mom can make that pass, checkdown merchant. I get that he's in a good system and doesn't have a big arm, but he's making it work AND coming off a major surgery. Then there's the Trey Lance apologists who jump at every opportunity to say that their guy isn't getting a fair shake.

Would Purdy be good without a pro-bowl RB, WR and TE? Maybe not, but he's also going to be in the league a long time even if it's as a backup down the line.
There’s no way my mom could make those throws. She would get lit up like a Christmas tree.
 

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Ya. He’s accurate, but he’s not Aaron Rodgers. What he really has going for him is how well he processes what the D is showing and then makes quick and aggressive decisions. He maxes out play calls and has one of the best play callers in the league as a coach.
I can't recall where I read this, but I remember reading that pro teams test players on their ability to mentally process things very quickly, and that Brock tested off the charts. I believe that ability is as critical as anything when it comes to being a successful NFL QB.
 

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He might be closer to elite than average, but it's a huge gap between him and say Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, Burrows and the guy with the Chargers. Those QB's are elite, Cousins is just good, and while making a ton of money, has really won nothing to speak of in his time in the league. The Vikings would trade Cousins in a heartbeat for one of the other QB's I listed and be a better team for it.

I am not ripping on Cousins, but he is like Dac, just good enough to get your hopes up, but in the end, not great enough to go out and win the game on his own. No defensive coordinator is game planning to stop Cousins, like they are with the others on the list.
Good post.
 

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I can't recall where I read this, but I remember reading that pro teams test players on their ability to mentally process things very quickly, and that Brock tested off the charts. I believe that ability is as critical as anything when it comes to being a successful NFL QB.
 

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Rodgers is entering the stage in his career, much like Brady, Manning and Elway before him that he can continue to play at a high level because he has seen it all before. So, while is athletic skills are not what they once were, he sees and understands what the defense is doing and has a counter to it.

If you have been watching Hard Knocks, you can see that when he is talking to Wilson, the young QB that started last year. He is coaching Wilson, by showing and telling him what to look for when this or that happens. Top QB's know who is going to be open when they get to the line and put a player in motion. They read how the defense reacts to the motion man, and then know which receiver they are going to throw the ball too. Younger QB's struggle with that, some never learn it, but the great ones, can continue on even when their skills are going down, just on that knowledge alone.
Using motion to read defenses pre-snap is something ISU has been doing for several years. I think that's partly why Purdy is so good at it. I also think that's why our Oline gets so many procedure penalties. :)
 

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