Campbell’s Offense

madguy30

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Wow, it's good to know that when we fire Campbell there are plenty of football savants here to take his place. I'm sure everyone here ripping on Scheelhouse was uber successful their 2nd d as y in the job.

Luke Fickell just got worked a bit out at Wazzu.

I wonder if getting a brand new shiny coach is kinda complicated.
 

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I really don’t get the people saying that our scheme is bad. There’s nothing wrong with our scheme, and it’s honestly a beautiful thing to watch when executed right. Unfortunately, our execution as of recent has been horrible (which is still on the head coach).
I'm not sure ISU has a scheme. I think they want to run the ball but now that's not working. Throwing 5 yard passes to the edge over and over makes it hard to sustain a drive.

They never seem to be able to get the ball to a wr in an space and was the OL that bad that could not throw deep
 

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I think calling 2020 a fluke year does a disservice to the players.

The talent that we had in Purdy, Hall, and others was amazing. They were able to brute force their way through a TON of the coaching-error ******** that we've been seeing for the last eight years. They carried Campbell and the rest of the coaching staff on their shoulders, not the other way around.

Now that those stars are gone, Campbell is completely exposed. There is nothing to counterbalance the terrible offensive play calling. There is no saving grace after needlessly burning eight minutes of clock. We were good because of the players on the field, not those wearing headsets.
 

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I think calling 2020 a fluke year does a disservice to the players.

The talent that we had in Purdy, Hall, and others was amazing. They were able to brute force their way through a TON of the coaching-error ******** that we've been seeing for the last eight years. They carried Campbell and the rest of the coaching staff on their shoulders, not the other way around.

Now that those stars are gone, Campbell is completely exposed. There is nothing to counterbalance the terrible offensive play calling. There is no saving grace after needlessly burning eight minutes of clock. We were good because of the players on the field, not those wearing headsets.
If 2020 was a normal year, we lose to Iowa at home like we always do. We also don’t get to play WVU and Ksu teams in December who could barely field a team due to covid sit outs. Would have also played a better team and lost in the Cheez it bowl or whatever than the 4-3 Oregon team we played that lost to cal and Oregon state.
 

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This is a really good post. I'm a little worried Rocco is just too damn slow. He needs to run the ball a bit to be effective.
How about scrapping the zone read totally.....it is not 2011 anymore and it serves no purpose. I swear on the first drive he literally gave the ball to the running back when the Hawk dlineman had crashed and was hugging him....like exactly what you are not supposed to do....it is the whole freaking point of the zone read.
Too late now, but the last 8 months the zone read practice snaps should have been spent with something more innovative and original in the playbook....like a qb under center with a quick scrum snap. something different. anything original or on the front side of trends.
 
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If 2020 was a normal year, we lose to Iowa at home like we always do. We also don’t get to play WVU and Ksu teams in December who could barely field a team due to covid sit outs. Would have also played a better team and lost in the Cheez it bowl or whatever than the 4-3 Oregon team we played that lost to cal and Oregon state.

I think ISU beats KSU and WV that season but more like 27-14ish scores instead of faux blowouts that made them look better.

The game at Texas was great but also relied on Mess to make bad decisions to let ISU hang around.
 

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He looks like he’s going to kill Nate’s career* after two games, one being against the best defense we’ll play all year? LMAO put the bottle down my guy
We will see how this goes. I do hope you are right. I do not have confidence in the play calling under Campbell.

At this point, what do you expect some of us to say? I can almost chalk up another Iowa win next year. A pattern has been set in play calling and in the Iowa series.
 

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Maybe they just aren't very talented.

The QB isn't supposed to be playing.

A true freshman is getting snaps at RB who probably wasn't supposed to be playing.

The line is average at best.

The receivers are horrific.

The tight ends are probably the best position group because they don't necessarily do anything good but they don't really do anything bad either.

We don't have any unit that you can play around. You're just hoping to not suck.

There's a level where the Xs and Os don't matter if the Jimmies and Joes aren't there.

Maybe they just aren't very talented.

The QB isn't supposed to be playing.

A true freshman is getting snaps at RB who probably wasn't supposed to be playing.

The line is average at best.

The receivers are horrific.

The tight ends are probably the best position group because they don't necessarily do anything good but they don't really do anything bad either.

We don't have any unit that you can play around. You're just hoping to not suck.

There's a level where the Xs and Os don't matter if the Jimmies and Joes aren't there.
2 yrs ago with brock an breece an Kohler. THATS when the **** show started....I'm matt, but kirk is who I dream of being. I wish our team played in a ****** conference, an had a instate rival game where the coach wants be just like me
 

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Wow, it's good to know that when we fire Campbell there are plenty of football savants here to take his place. I'm sure everyone here ripping on Scheelhouse was uber successful their 2nd d as y in the job.

Now it really feels like two years before the Rhoads era ended.

It also feels exactly like when everyone said hire TJ instead of Prohm.

Full circle.
 
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Remember when we beat Oklahoma because the staff and team had nothing to lose so they went with a walk-on QB and played with reckless abandon?

What happened to that staff?

Did they get paid too much?

Hungry dogs fight harder and run harder.

Campbell can't even get his team up for the biggest game of the year.

Quit making excuses for a multimillionaire that can't adjust.

This isn't fun to watch and there is no creativity, innovation, or even adapting to what the defense is making available.
 

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In year 8, it’s pretty clear that CMC is a stubborn coach that has a vison for how football is played and that his approach and culture is the path to success. He trusts Heacock - his OCs not so much. What’s frustrating is that I’d be hard pressed to describe his approach in a sentence. What’s CMC’s identity? He’s builder I guess, find good kids, gives them a place to play where winning isn’t everything, and has a decent eye for some talent with the recent NFL talent. Got hot in 2020 with a Covid year.

ISU is the perfect place for him. Fans are happy with a bowl for the most part. Expectations are mediocre. No big donors demanding change. What pressure does he really have to do something different? He makes good $$. I’m not saying he’s fleecing the taxpayers of Iowa, but he’s in the perfect place to stubbornly work his vision. Pollard has given him lots of say over the program and CMC is more than happy to plug away at his vision of culture and margins. Unfortunately, it’s not the most exciting vision for fans. His coaching style seems to be regressing outlying talent to the team ’norm’ as opposed to adjusting the team to take advantage of unique, exceptional talent.

I respect CMC and yet that’s not the world of today’s FBS football. The Big 12, starting this year and really kicking in next year, is wide open - the traditional powers will be gone. With KU, UCF, Utah and Colorado looking to shake things up - I fear ISU football will be outside looking in and Pollard will be looking for a new coach in 5 years after several sub 500 seasons.
It's hard not to disagree. Good post.

I hope that in 4 to 5 years things will be consistently better, if Campbell is still here. After last year, and the offensive play calling today, NIL, and the new Big 12, we are not trending in the right direction.
 

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It’s a huge talent problem. We have some talented guys but a lot of them are lower level players to

What else can be said. He is losing fans. Had a chance, had a window, but it seems closed at the moment.

Stubborn, is all I can say.

Good defense though. Heacock is doing what he can do. There is that. But we have been saying that for 3+ years now. The other side of the ball, ???, not so much.

KU, and most of the Big 12, will beat us this year unless we make great changes now. It's a broken record.

I'll check back next week. I'm becoming apathetic. Never thought I'd say it.

I hope we can come back. Iowa is a good team. But holy cow.
Iowa is
No it never did. It worked when we HAD stars.


Purdy - NFL starter
Kolar- NFL
Allen - is he still in the NFL? Can't remebmer
Hall - NFL Starter
Montgomery - NFL
Lazard - NFL
Butler - drafted
Kene - NFL
Akers - invited to the Rams roster, I'm not sure if he's still there




That's when the offense worked. Ever since then - its been bad. But instead of seeing that he didn't have NFL guys to run the same offense, we run the same offense, and even after we see we can't run it the same way, we

In year 8, it’s pretty clear that CMC is a stubborn coach that has a vison for how football is played and that his approach and culture is the path to success. He trusts Heacock - his OCs not so much. What’s frustrating is that I’d be hard pressed to describe his approach in a sentence. What’s CMC’s identity? He’s builder I guess, find good kids, gives them a place to play where winning isn’t everything, and has a decent eye for some talent with the recent NFL talent. Got hot in 2020 with a Covid year.

ISU is the perfect place for him. Fans are happy with a bowl for the most part. Expectations are mediocre. No big donors demanding change. What pressure does he really have to do something different? He makes good $$. I’m not saying he’s fleecing the taxpayers of Iowa, but he’s in the perfect place to stubbornly work his vision. Pollard has given him lots of say over the program and CMC is more than happy to plug away at his vision of culture and margins. Unfortunately, it’s not the most exciting vision for fans. His coaching style seems to be regressing outlying talent to the team ’norm’ as opposed to adjusting the team to take advantage of unique, exceptional talent.

I respect CMC and yet that’s not the world of today’s FBS football. The Big 12, starting this year and really kicking in next year, is wide open - the traditional powers will be gone. With KU, UCF, Utah and Colorado looking to shake things up - I fear ISU football will be outside looking in and Pollard will be looking for a new coach in 5 years after several sub

Because our slot receiver will drop the ball to avoid getting hit.
Supposedly have good tight ends
 

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Even with the other success, you want to know when I started really doubting Campbell?

At Baylor. 2019.

When they made ISU take their tents down.

He should have said no tents, no game.

Absolutely dare the bastards to push through ISU's players to take down some shade, which was a player safety issue with temps that hot on the field.

It was 122 degrees on the ISU sideline.

ISU Tents
 

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Wow, it's good to know that when we fire Campbell there are plenty of football savants here to take his place. I'm sure everyone here ripping on Scheelhouse was uber successful their 2nd d as y in the job.
I'd go back to we lay it all out to win this game win or lose. Helps basketball is coming soon
 

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It's hard not to disagree. Good post.

I hope that in 4 to 5 years things will be consistently better, if Campbell is still here. After last year, and the offensive play calling today, NIL, and the new Big 12, we are not trending in the right direction.
My guess is that Pollard’s patience for CMC declines significantly w/ the new conference. Even if he loves what CMC brings as a culture coach, he also has to see that the conference is up for grabs and the current incarnation of ISU football is hens laying eggs.
 

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