No relay on a Field Goal

HouClone

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There’s never a reason to review it unless you put a camera on the refs forehead. Otherwise there’s no angle to overturn it.

I can’t tell from the replays either, but if the guy with the best angle said it was no good then there’s a pretty good chance it was no good. Not exactly a tough call.
When I refereed intramural football at ISU, it was the easiest call. You stand by the one of the posts and look up. Hard to screw the call up, even if the ball goes over the post.
 

tman24

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When I refereed intramural football at ISU, it was the easiest call. You stand by the one of the posts and look up. Hard to screw the call up, even if the ball goes over the post.
which makes me wonder why people think random screen shots are proof, when the ref was standing directly behind it and made the call.
 

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I'm in the same boat. The official is directly under the goalpost looking up. We don't get that angle from any TV shot. Acting like it was clearly in is just silly.
Except he wasn't under the goal post. He was behind it, as usual, BUT he's clearly two steps to the right. He needed to be right behind the goal post aligned with where the kick originated.
 

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I don’t really know much about ref position but I do know that the kicker should kick the ball in between the goal posts from 35 yards out in a way that it’s not a question.
 
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He's 2-3 feet behind the post. Now if you move the camera to behind the place holder, you will see how far off he is. Definitely, within the degree of error of the call. They should do it similarly to punts. A ref stands at the place kicker spot with his hand up and the goal post refs align themselves under their respective posts with that position. When they're in position, the whistle blows to start the play. Yes, this could be tricky with the clock, but it's definitely a better system.
 

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He's 2-3 feet behind the post. Now if you move the camera to behind the place holder, you will see how far off he is. Definitely, within the degree of error of the call. They should do it similarly to punts. A ref stands at the place kicker spot with his hand up and the goal post refs align themselves under their respective posts with that position. When they're in position, the whistle blows to start the play. Yes, this could be tricky with the clock, but it's definitely a better system.
Oh lord.
 
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He's 2-3 feet behind the post. Now if you move the camera to behind the place holder, you will see how far off he is. Definitely, within the degree of error of the call. They should do it similarly to punts. A ref stands at the place kicker spot with his hand up and the goal post refs align themselves under their respective posts with that position. When they're in position, the whistle blows to start the play. Yes, this could be tricky with the clock, but it's definitely a better system.

He's in the proper position whether you believe it or not. There's no reason to set up at any sort of an angle.

You want him to move toward where the camera guy is (red vest)? Because that makes the call impossible, as evidenced by the replay that ESPN showed from that camera.
 
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He's 2-3 feet behind the post. Now if you move the camera to behind the place holder, you will see how far off he is. Definitely, within the degree of error of the call. They should do it similarly to punts. A ref stands at the place kicker spot with his hand up and the goal post refs align themselves under their respective posts with that position. When they're in position, the whistle blows to start the play. Yes, this could be tricky with the clock, but it's definitely a better system.
I think I'm going to the official that's been working his entire adult life to get to the Division I level to get basic mechanics correct...
 

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If the official sees it pass directly over the post, it is no good. Officials aren't perfect but most of them care more about keeping their jobs than screwing ISU, not to say that hasn't happened. It is my honest and humble opinion that he missed it
 

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He's 2-3 feet behind the post. Now if you move the camera to behind the place holder, you will see how far off he is. Definitely, within the degree of error of the call. They should do it similarly to punts. A ref stands at the place kicker spot with his hand up and the goal post refs align themselves under their respective posts with that position. When they're in position, the whistle blows to start the play. Yes, this could be tricky with the clock, but it's definitely a better system.
Well, he'd be blocked by the crossbar if he were direcly underneath. I don't know the regulations, but a yard or less behind seems reasonable.
 
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