Shows you how much I know. I just wish we could find a way to make the OLine a little more effective.
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Game Thoughts Oklahoma State
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OSU is bad, hands down. BUT,
Before this weekend, OSU was allowing 20 ppg. 9 teams in the Big12 are allowing 20 ppg or more currently post week 4 and ISU plays 5 of the 9, with OSU being 1 one of the remaining 4. My point to this is ISU will have opportunities to win games, possibly even 6. Whether they take advantage of those opportunities remains to be seen, but I feel like I can confidently say OSU will not be the worst defense ISU sees this year
The possibilities are truly limited. We will win or lose our remaining games.
Watching a bit now on a lunch break.
Jackson is the best receiver especially at getting downhill after the catch.
Jackson is the best receiver especially at getting downhill after the catch.
I think Baylor is worse. Houston too, probably, but we don't get to play them. Hoping we can steal 4 wins between Kansas, BYU, Cincinnati, Baylor, and TCU. Not really giving us a shot vs OU, Texas, or Kansas State. Texas is possible upset pick, depending on what happens between now and then to them and their morale. If they suffer a loss or two they may not want to get off the bus for a mid-November game in Ames. For now it's a penciled in loss. I don't think we stand a chance @ K State or this week @ OU unfortunately. Rocco gets his first true hostile environment in Norman, and for some reason I am feeling vibes of 2002 when we went into Norman ranked #9 and had a Heisman hopeful QB leading the charge, only to get spanked embarrassingly on national TV. This OU team isn't as good as that one in '02, but you could probably say the same about this Iowa State team vs the '02 ISU.
It’s a bummer we miss Texas Tech, WVU, and Houston. Those, along with ISU and OSU, are probably the worst teams of the Big 12
Like I said in a previous post.........if the 2017 version of Matt Campbell shows up to call the game this weekend, I give ISU a decent chance of winning. I really do.
Now if last year and this year's version of Matt Ferentz show up.............ISU has no chance.
And if Matt Campbell and not Matt Ferentz had been coaching against Iowa and Ohio, IMO there is a very good chance ISU is 4-0 going into Norman.
I call bs on the bolded. Daniel Jackson is just one example that the WR room might be deeper and more talented than what many fans have realized. I think it's the coaches (CMC) reluctance to get away from the game plan and scheme of using multiple TE sets and heavy personnel the truest reason we have not seen more production out of the WR room. I think it is an area where the coaching has really screwed up sans having Kolar and Allen on the team. Players, formations, plays, getting preached but not practiced.
I really only recall one egregious break away like you are referring to here. #5 Purchase had a rough day.
I honestly thought they were a tick better than the team that beat us with Gunnar Gundy and one-armed Spencer Sanders last year. They always have good young talent at the skill positions somehow. Lost a few receivers in the portal last year, but appear to be fine at that position IMO. That RB Ollie Gordon II is only a SO, he will be one to monitor the next couple years.
I am a bit nervous about the game this week. I have chalked it up as a loss in my head already, so I don't think I can be disappointed necessarily.
Have not watched a single snap of OU this year. Are they loaded with 4 and 5 star talent on the D-Line? If they are, I expect a long, futility laden day for the offense. Could be as ugly as Iowa looked vs Penn State. Worried about a repeat of the '02 game, not that I think OU will go off for 49 points against our defense.
Tech is a weird animal. The talent on that roster alone should put them in the top half or even third of the conference. They might finish with the worst record based on what we've seen so far.
Lots of agree with this.
I'm not quite ready to say Rocco = Brock. But I have been calling him a "poor mans Brock Purdy" for a few weeks now. Maybe by November I will say "upper middle class mans Brock Purdy".
WRT special teams... you gotta win 2 of 3 phases of the game to win. CMC basically didn't even try to win on ST until last year, and it really did cost him a lot of games. Now if ISU is up against a tough defense or a juggernaut offense, (or your defense just has a bad day) you can maybe win on ST and still win the game.
We thought it looked like a dislocated shoulder. Source - my daughter and gf have both dislocated their shoulders and they both thought the way his arm was hanging looked exactly like that. Whatever it is, hope he heals fast, they need him.
OU imo looks about as good as they've looked overall in a long while.
No more defense optional stuff going on.
Clock management with a 2 TD lead in the 4th quarter was really bad. We ran a hurry up QB sneak with 30 seconds on the play clock and then punted with 22 seconds on the play clock. Not to mention there were other plays where we snapped the ball with more than 10 seconds on the play clock. This is not what winning teams do.
Both TX and OU seem to have legit defenses. The Texas DL will be the best we face all year, much better than OU or Iowa even. Both are somewhat susceptible to over the top passing, however, our lack of ability to run and the lack of separation our WRs get can mitigate that. It's going to be critical we keep seeing development as the year goes on.
Tech & WV are higher than us in Sagarin. Tech is higher in SP+ too, they are MUCH better than their record. Buzzsaw game at Wyoming and fought Oregon tooth and nail in Lubbock.
Houston is warm wet dumpster juice though.
I know you have been down on our WR room, but have you seen any reason to change your viewpoint on that over the past few weeks? Huge game from Noel and Daniel Jackson breaking out a bit being indicators of us perhaps being wrong or at least a bit mistaken?
WV and Tech are flipped compared to where I thought they'd both be at this point in the season. Neal Brown is saving his job right now.
I think there are absolutely reasons to be hopeful. I tried to preface my prior comments with the context that route trees, play calling, development, and separation were our problems, not purely a raw talent deficit. While I do think we lack some depth in the WR room, the route trees were a bit more crisp against OSU and the play calling was clearly better. I'd like to see continued development because quite frankly I don't think even the coaches know what we have for talent with that group because they haven't been developed over the past few years.
The staff loves the idea of establishing the running game to open up the passing game as this also helps limit possessions and control the game. However, I think there is some recognition that we may need to switch things around and get some 10-15 yard passing game established to open up the run game. We just don't have the line to come out of the gate and run up the middle 2 out of every 3 downs.
i second the broken collarbone prediction (also been there, done that)
WV is better than I thought; I also thought Brown was on his way out.
Look at their schedule - they still have Cincy, BYU, and OkSt at home - should get 2/3 there. Road games - at Houston, but also TCU, UCF, OU, and Baylor. Might get Houston. So lets say 3-5 rest of the way.
Avoids Texas and KSU, that's nice.
Tech otoh... I still think they are a good team, but their schedule is a lot lot tougher. Even getting to 6-6 will be tough; they play both KSU and Texas. Have to go TO BYU.
