Predictions / What do you need to see against OU?

Final Score vs OU

  • OU by 20+

    Votes: 44 14.7%
  • OU by 10-19

    Votes: 136 45.5%
  • OU by 1-9

    Votes: 82 27.4%
  • ISU by 1-9

    Votes: 28 9.4%
  • ISU by 10-19

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • ISU by 20+

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Meteor Strike

    Votes: 6 2.0%

  • Total voters
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aeroclone

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Not sure on the final score, but I would like to see us put 20+ on the board, feel like there is some semblance of creativity and adjustments on offense, and have the game be interesting enough that I'm still watching in the 4th quarter.
 

ISUCubswin

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1) Establish the run
2) Don’t even think about scoring until we’re down AT LEAST 10 points
3) Flip the field so it takes them at least 2-3 more plays to get in our territory
 
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AvonLakeCyclone

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Cincinnati only allowed 20 points, and I think we have a better / comparable defense to them.
However, UC had 3 red zone chances against OU in the first half and only 3 points to show for it. OU has a much improved defense. I don't think our offense will even reach the red zone.
23-0 OU with the 3 pt home field advantage.
 

LeaningCy

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I'm expecting something like a 31-13 OU win.

Hoping (not expecting) to see:
- Fewer first down runs
- A run/pass play mix that more closely matches our run/pass yardage mix
- Our offense put up enough of a fight that the defense wants to keep trying
 
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Cyinthenorth

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I'm expecting something like a 31-13 OU win.

Hoping (not expecting) to see:
- Fewer first down runs
- A run/pass play mix that more closely matches our run/pass yardage mix
- Our offense put up enough of a fight that the defense wants to keep trying
I like the score prediction. Hoping we can get to 13, but could more realistically see them reaching 24+. I think our defense will be stout but will be dog tired by the middle 3rd quarter and probably become pretty bendy.
 

LAClone

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1) Unpredictable play calling on offense
2) Offensive plays before 3rd down that are designed to pass the ball more than 3 yards
3) Clock management, including hurry-up tempo when needed and dragging out the play clock when needed.

You know, things you would expect from a first-year P5 coach.
 

RagingCloner

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Not sure on the final score, but I would like to see us put 20+ on the board, feel like there is some semblance of creativity and adjustments on offense, and have the game be interesting enough that I'm still watching in the 4th quarter.
It does a lot for a young offense confidence wise if you can get some positive results against a top 25 team. I dont believe we win, but, Gabriel is not THAT good of a QB, and our defense is allowing less points than Cincinnati. Again, OU needed 2 red zone turnovers and a missed field goal from cincy to win. Rocco has been great with ball security so far, aside from the one bad pass against UI. I dont believe OU scores 27 points on our defense, and I think there will be an opportunity for us to win late, especially with OU looking ahead to UT next week
 
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exCYtable

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An opened up offense that let's Rocco do his thing again. More Eli Sanders and Abu. A respectable defensive effort. And if we win and Iowa loses against MSU I will need medical attention because that eggplant is lasting way more than 4 hours.
 
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bozclone

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Before Matt Campbell came to Iowa State, this was never a game. Win or lose, I want to see us compete with OU. I would love to see this young team have a shot to win late. Stranger things have happened.
 

CycloneErik

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It does a lot for a young offense confidence wise if you can get some positive results against a top 25 team. I dont believe we win, but, Gabriel is not THAT good of a QB, and our defense is allowing less points than Cincinnati. Again, OU needed 2 red zone turnovers and a missed field goal from cincy to win. Rocco has been great with ball security so far, aside from the one bad pass against UI. I dont believe OU scores 27 points on our defense, and I think there will be an opportunity for us to win late, especially with OU looking ahead to UT next week

Well, if someone wanted to be difficult, they'd point out that we did play Iowa.
 

isucy86

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I am more focused on our defense. Last week was a mixed bag against a mediocre offense.

If ISU is going to have a successful season a good trend would be:
  1. Defense holds OU to < 25pts
  2. Another solid game from special teams
  3. We win the TO battle.
 

t-noah

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What are your predictions and what do you need to see from the Clones?
1 - I need to see more progress from the WR room. Route trees and play calling both looked better last week, but OSU's middle was very poor so hard to tell what was real vs placebo. Route trees and getting separation still struggled quite a bit.

2 - Continued progress in play calling. Nobody expects us to suddenly be an air raid offense, but clearly the running game isn't getting anything. OU's defense is much improved this year so I'm not expecting to see much success running up the middle. They are a bit soft in the mid-yardage pass defense so we need to attack it early and often.

3 - We need to be competitive. I hate to think we're back to the "moral victories" stage as that would suggest we've truly lost any and all momentum as a program. I don't think things are yet beyond repair, and with a bunch of young and/or undeveloped guys, we have room to grow.
You can't answer your own question!!

Wait. Yes YOU can! :D

And all true btw. I was going to say the same.

Seriously, I just want to see continued progress in the play calling. Keep the defense on their heels, be unpredictable. I'd love to see the OL stick to their guy and put 'em on the ground once in a while. I would love a win and no injuries. I'll settle for progress and no injuries.

And good riddance OuT
 

t-noah

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I won't make my prediction here. I want to wait until the game day thread. If I win again there, like last week, I may double my money! :D
 

z001

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I think the only real path to victory is to be able to run the ball, and I don't think we'll have much success with that against OU's d-line. I also think OSU exposed the glaring weaknesses that exist on our defense, mainly our secondary, and I see OU having decent success exploiting that considering they're a solid passing team. OSU was the real first test for our defense, and they looked average at best. Playing Iowa and Ohio typically isn't the best metric to judge the quality of a defense. Also, this game being a night game in Norman is also a disadvantage for us. Home teams tend to play more amped up at night, and our team is very inexperienced. I'm going to go 30-13, OU as my prediction.
 
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CycloneSpinning

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Originally I voted 1-9 points defeat, but had to change to the next tier up. I will be surprised if Iowa State can scrape together more than two scoring drives. I think we could get kept out of the end zone against a Venables defense that is really looking like they've figured it out a little bit in year 2. On the other side of the ball, I think our defense will perform better than last week but in a wasted effort. This OU offense is not the type to move fast and explosively as we have seen in the past. I think it will be pretty close throughout, but we lose something like 20-6 while getting a couple field goals from Contreraz.

From what I've gathered reading various anecdotes and listening to podcasts this week:

  1. OU has similar issues to us in terms of running the ball.
  2. OU has a freshman punter who has struggled, which could be the best possible thing we could use to our advantage. If we can somehow win the field position game, we might be able to pull an upset.
  3. Dillon Gabriel is not a gun slinger. He takes what the defense allows. I could see this hurting us since we do not bring a lot of pressure and tend to give generous cushions to the opposing receivers. Our LB play is poor, so the short to intermediate middle will be getting picked on a lot. I get the sense that OU will have a lot of time consuming methodical drives, and will look to just squeeze the life out of us ala Ohio. I think Heacock will have to call a more aggressive game than what we've seen so far in order to have a chance at stopping them.
  4. OU does not have a discernible area of weakness defensively. This leads me to believe Iowa State will struggle to score and move the ball. That is not a very hot take, I realize.
  5. OU is in a look ahead spot. +1 point for Iowa State
  6. OU is playing under the lights at home. -1 point for Iowa State.
  7. OU has beaten up on a lot of bad teams so far, so that should leave some room for optimism, although we do have some evidence to believe Iowa State may not be very good team either.
What I want to see:

I think a win would just be gravy in this one. I want to see a lot of what has been mentioned. Creativity on offense, a more aggressive approach on both sides of the ball, and a clean game on special teams. Call it a moral victory if you will, but I don't think this years version of the Cyclones is overqualified for moral victories.
This is a scary game for OU in a weird way. Their defense looks good…but they haven’t played anyone, and they have to prepare for Texas. With a good game plan by the good guys (that exposes some areas where the staff either thinks OU is weak or hasn’t been tested), we could make it interesting.

It’s especially notable that OU hopefully doesn’t know what ISU is going to bring to the table in terms of their offense. This is the perfect opportunity for Campbell and Co. to really try some more aggressive Air Raid type strategies…and Rocco certainly built a bit of confidence last week. No way I would touch this one in terms of predictions, but there’s definitely an opportunity here.
 

z001

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This is a scary game for OU in a weird way. Their defense looks good…but they haven’t played anyone, and they have to prepare for Texas. With a good game plan by the good guys (that exposes some areas where the staff either thinks OU is weak or hasn’t been tested), we could make it interesting.

It’s especially notable that OU hopefully doesn’t know what ISU is going to bring to the table in terms of their offense. This is the perfect opportunity for Campbell and Co. to really try some more aggressive Air Raid type strategies…and Rocco certainly built a bit of confidence last week. No way I would touch this one in terms of predictions, but there’s definitely an opportunity here.
In fairness, who have we really played to say that we are any good? Iowa just got shutout and OSU only scored 7 points against South Alabama. Not to mention that same OSU offense put 27 points and over 400 yards of offense on our defense. In terms of OU's schedule, they have played SMU, who is located in a recruiting hotbed and has talent at the skill positions, particularly at receiver and quarterback. They are similar to a UCF in terms of being in a recruiting hotbed and landing under-the-radar athletes. Then they played Cincinnati, who has a former power-five quarterback that played in Dan Mullen's high-powered Florida offenses, on the road and held them to two field goals. Cincinnati also went on the road and beat Pitt, a power five team. In other words, it's not like OU played The Citadel four-straight games. I think objectively speaking, OU has played a tougher schedule than us and has been tested more than we have up to this point.
 
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cyatheart

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Campbell is really good in these games. Us vs the world and all that drivel.

Ou isn't very good, Campbell will open it up enough to lose closely and claim moral victory anyway.

Ou 24, clones 21