49ers - Brock Purdy - Still and Always #1

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It's just for clicks, but we can say it again. Take away all of the weapons like he says from any QB and they aren't going to be successful. It is a dumb take. No QB has been elite without weapons around him.
He has the audacity to mention Tua like that system and his weapons aren’t loaded.
 
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Elite QBs can hide some bad talent. I always thought the Patriots were all Belichek, starting to look like Brady propped that system up when they were lacking talent. Brady also looked extremely efficient when he had talent around him.
Brock currently has a ton of talent around him and is off the charts with efficiency. He's played in games without Debo. He had a game without Aiyuk. There have been games where CMC hasn't played to his usual standard. Brock has still been outstanding. I firmly believe he will be fine in a few years when they need to pay him and they lose some of that great talent around him.
He is a great leader and a natural winner. His fast processing speed, football IQ, and anticipation set him apart from the large QBs with cannon arms that never figure it out. Zero doubt at this point he has a long career barring injury in the NFL.
He is the greatest cyclone QB all time by any metric (Wins, Stats, NFL career). I sure am heck am enjoying every second of watching him excel! Love that ISU gets brought up every time they talk about him. His parent's business still flies the Iowa State flag.
Including this year Belichick has only had two winning season’s without Brady as the starting QB. Where would we rank Belichick as a coach if Bledsoe didn’t get hurt and Brady never got a chance because he was drafted to be a backup?
 

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He has the audacity to mention Tua like that system and his weapons aren’t loaded.
We all know why. Tua played at Alabama, won a championship, and was the #5 pick in the draft, so he is supposed to be a great NFL QB. Everything anyone says about Purdy being a system QB applies just as much to Tua, but I'm not sure I've ever heard a talking head mention that.
 

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Brock may be a "system QB" but he's performing at a high freaking level.
You don't do this against high level competition, this young, without working your tail off.

He reminds me of KC version of Alex Smith.
 

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Except good?
KC Alex Smith was very solid IMO.

I'm just saying Brock is moving outside of the pocket, throwing off the back foot, etc pretty damn well. He's making some really nice plays out there.
I don't think MVP talk is too crazy right now for Brock, regardless of weapons.
 

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The 'product of the system' argument is a dumb one. Of course if you're in a good system you have a better chance to succeed. Would Mahomes be what he is if drafted by Chicago? Maybe, but playing for Andy Reid is a much better situation.
 

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KC Alex Smith was very solid IMO.

I'm just saying Brock is moving outside of the pocket, throwing off the back foot, etc pretty damn well. He's making some really nice plays out there.
I don't think MVP talk is too crazy right now for Brock, regardless of weapons.
Statistically MVP should be Purdy or Tua. There is a reason Vegas has him in the top 5 odds right now. The only argument against relies on completely subjective analysis.
 
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Brock may be a "system QB" but he's performing at a high freaking level.
You don't do this against high level competition, this young, without working your tail off.

He reminds me of KC version of Alex Smith.
KC Alex Smith, like Jimmy G, and many others had stats and played for teams that generally won.

Big difference is that everyone, and I mean everyone who rooted for those teams, may have defended criticism of their qb, knew that if anything came down to their team *needing* them to do something solid or great, it was a toss up.

*could* Brock turn into that? Maybe. Maybe he’s Cinderella and he’s gonna be exposed and start making bad decisions as he did at times at ISU.

But he’s not thus far. He’s improved his footwork. He’s trusting his line, his eyes, and his coaching and through 13 games of his career making nearly 100% of the right moves.

He’s conducting his symphony far greater than Alex Smith or Jimmy were ever able to. And that’s evidenced on tape, stat line, and by praise and respect from his locker room and coaches.
 

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People insist they won't admit Purdy is elite until they see him him play from behind, which is funny since he's never behind because he's playing elite.
I think we should see him recover from adversity before crowning him elite. He's very good, that is no doubt. He's MVP quality thus far this year. That's kind of the point though, he's only played 13 games.
 
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I think we should see him recover from adversity before crowning him elite. He's very good, that is no doubt. He's MVP quality thus far this year. That's kind of the point though, he's only played 13 games.
I know you mean in game adversity, but I would call his ligament and surgery adversity and he has recovered nicely. Only time will tell if he can continue to play at an elite level, but he definitely is right now and I for one am enjoying it.
 

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I think we should see him recover from adversity before crowning him elite. He's very good, that is no doubt. He's MVP quality thus far this year. That's kind of the point though, he's only played 13 games.
Does coming back from season ending elbow surgery qualify as adversity? Or beating a defense that blitzed more than any other team in history?

What he has done in his relatively short career has been historic. Here's yet another amazing stat:
Purdy is the only QB in NFL history to ever start out 5-0 in his first two seasons.
 
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Does coming back from season ending elbow surgery qualify as adversity? Or beating a defense that blitzed more than any other team in history?

What he has done in his relatively short career has been historic. Here's yet another amazing stat:
Purdy is the only QB in NFL history to ever start out 5-0 in his first two seasons.

Purdy hasn't faced the in-game adversity that I think you're referring to because HE HAS NEVER LOST A GAME. It's amusing that people hold this against him.
I'm not holding it against him. It takes years to be considered elite. If he continues his path I agree he deserves MVP but let's wait until he goes through a roster shuffle or has to come back from mistakes he made in game before we call him Rodgers, Brady, Aikman and Favre.
 
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Purdy hasn't faced the in-game adversity that everyone is referring to because HE HAS NEVER LOST A GAME.

It's amusing that people hold this against him. It's like criticizing Cale Sanderson's career because he never demonstrated his ability to battle back after a loss.
 
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I'm not holding it against him. It takes years to be considered elite. If he continues his path I agree he deserves MVP but let's wait until he goes through a roster shuffle or has to come back from mistakes he made in game before we call him Rodgers, Brady, Aikman and Favre.
We're not calling him Rogers, Brady, Aikman, or Farve. We're simply saying he's a leading candidate right now for MVP, but there are doubters who refuse to acknowledge this because he was drafted so late.
 

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I'm not holding it against him. It takes years to be considered elite. If he continues his path I agree he deserves MVP but let's wait until he goes through a roster shuffle or has to come back from mistakes he made in game before we call him Rodgers, Brady, Aikman and Favre.
Aikman is an elite QB? He is a perfect example of a system QB. He won several Super Bowls but his career stats are mediocre at best.
 
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