***2023-24 College Football Thread***
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Great. So excited to watch USC play Maryland. Good luck to Iowa though if they have to play at least two to three good Big 10 teams every year. A lot of 5 to 7 win seasons on the horizon. Should be exciting.
I was tricked. I saw Pete Thamel, but I didn't bother to read the handle while scrolling. Shame me all you want
I don't know if SDSU will go for another retread hire, but I would image Kliff would love that job.
2023 CFB Coaching Carousel
Openings (As of 11/13):
-Northwestern
-Michigan St
-Texas A&M
-Mississippi St
-Boise St
-San Diego St
Openings (As of 11/13):
-Northwestern
-Michigan St
-Texas A&M
-Mississippi St
-Boise St
-San Diego St
Every conference has its clunkers. Agree going to be some tough seasons but am looking forward to watching many of those matchups, only way to move the program forward.
What's a better job over the next 5 years.. Northwestern, Michigan St, or Iowa State??
Obviously I am biased, but do non-ISU fans think being in the bottom half (MSU) to third (NW) of the new B1G think that job should get a top tier coach? It seems like a destination where your ceiling is 8 wins and your floor VERY low..
Obviously I am biased, but do non-ISU fans think being in the bottom half (MSU) to third (NW) of the new B1G think that job should get a top tier coach? It seems like a destination where your ceiling is 8 wins and your floor VERY low..
definitely not Northwestern, they are very limited in the guys they can recruit due to very high admission standards and gpa requirements. They already compete for those guys with Notre Dame, and Notre Dame wins that battle everytime.
Michigan state is a better job than ISU due to the stupid amounts of BIG10 money. Especially once conferences allow distributing money to players, SEC & BIG10 will advance even further away.
Also not being in the Big10 east anymore is a huge win for that program. Every 5 years they usually step up and play with the big boys.
Also not being in the Big10 east anymore is a huge win for that program. Every 5 years they usually step up and play with the big boys.
Tough to tell. Northwestern may just need the right staff.
Academics will be an issue but Harbaugh got Stanford to be very respectful in no time. Northwestern has great facilities.
Granted, that's a giant leap of faith but can it be done....,maybe. Will it? Most likely not.
Seems like MSU has a lot of money to play with.
Michigan State is not bottom half of the new Big 10. They are bottom half but upper tier jobs IMO. They might be above Wisconsin or even with them.
Ohio State
Michigan
USC
Oregon
Washington
Penn State
Wisconsin OR Michigan State
UCLA
Nebraska
IDK, Iowa?
Maryland
Minnesota
Illinois
Purdue
Rutgers
Indiana
Northwestern
Northwestern is hard so no, Iowa State is clearly a better job than Northwestern.
Michigan State is arguably better as expectations aren't crazy high, money is better, everything is slightly better. Michigan State to me is Iowa State on steroids a little bit.
More money, slightly bigger base, etc but overall, still little brother in state and not an "elite" football school.
I'd say Michigan State is like an 87% to Iowa State's 84-85%. Something like that. Very comparable but because of size, money and a slightly higher ceiling in a perfect year - it might be just barely higher but not by much IMO
Michigan State's floor should probably be around 6-6 if they are being run competently. Maybe 5-7.
Iowa State's floor is lower and the ceiling is a little shorter or lower.
But at the same time you are going to have an easier path on paper to playing in a title game. So that's what brings Iowa State within spitting distance and making it a not quite, but close to , lateral job
This take sums up my thoughts pretty well. MSU is two years away from an 11 win season (playing in the east) and 10-6 over the last 15 years against Michigan. You can win there and you can recruit high level talent you just need the right coach. Also sparty has the 12th most AD revenue and is usually in top 15 for ratings so you can climb with the right staff.
I will say there are plenty of reasons to put ISU on similar footing, the job security is much higher and the path to winning the big 12 and getting into the playoff is substantially easier. Realistically even with moving out of the east there are going to be 2-3 games every season that will most likely be losses. Getting wins in those situations (traveling to the west coast, playing OSU) is what will get a playoff birth for sparty. ISU in comparison can look at their schedule and say with reasonable confidence that there isn’t a single game that is a probable loss every year. Not saying there won’t be hard games but currently no one in the conference will have much better recruits then ISU and there is a bunch of parity.
Honestly, its not going to happen and that's good for the health of the conference but I wish someone would come in and give Wittingham a whole bucket of money.
Because a Utah team not devastated by injuries might be the cream of the crop. Not unbeatable but that program is humming - I mean with a backup QB they almost went in and beat a top 10 team. Other than getting dump trucked by Oregon they are a great team.
I'd say as long as Whit's at Utah - it might not be a capable L in terms of predictions every season but that would be the team that might be able to be as close to is as the league gets. Because they are IMO the best non-playoff team in the country. Not this year, perhaps, but overall the last few years.
I really agree with this take as well, I know the board and conference really doesn’t want Utah to come in and dominate but they sure seem set up to do so. I’m sure they will take their yearly 1-2 losses because that’s so Utah is but they just look consistently good and very well prepared.
Man, he really doesn't want to go to Morgantown.
