***2023-24 College Football Thread***

[theshadow]

Somewhere, Travis Ferguson nods knowingly.

 

[Cyclonepride]

I'd like to see BYU beating OSU, but not at the expense of allowing an OU/UT final championship game. Ick

 

[JP4CY]

I'd like to see BYU beating OSU, but not at the expense of allowing an OU/UT final championship game. Ick

I'm gonna find that hard to watch.

 

[PickSix]

You know, this discussion (particularly about an undefeated FSU maybe not getting in) is why I hate hate HATE the whole playoff committee setup. Anytime you give the power to decide playoff qualifiers to a group of humans, you end up with human biases (conscious or unconscious) coming into play. The committee has proven over and over again that they have no scruples about changing their positions about what’s most important from year to year, depending on which team might benefit more.

“Not having that 13th CCG data point is too important” becomes “Finishing second in an SEC division just proves that team is stronger than this other CCG champion.” “The eye test” or “we think Team A would beat Team B on a neutral field” is nothing but imaginary standards. And don’t get me started on how the committee can manipulate the early CFP rankings so it helps them get to the final four they want.

Now, to be fair, in most years the last couple of weeks have just seemed to work out, with the right teams winning when they needed to so as a generally accepted Best Four made the playoffs. It’d just be so perfect if now, in the final 4-team playoff year, we ended up with absolute chaos and seven or eight teams with valid claims for those four spots … then we’ll see what a “great job” this human committee is gonna come up with.

I am not holding my breath for much wisdom.

I pretty much just assume brand names will get the benefit of the doubt.

I'm too tired to fight it anymore. That's just the world we live in.

 

[ISU_Guy]

Wow. A bigger fraud than Iowa this year is OSU. Embarrassed by South Alabama, UCF and really struggled to win a lot of games.

 

[CycloneErik]

Way to fail, Cowboys. This is not what you do what opportunity.

 

[BigJCy]

Good Lord Arizona up 38-7 on Arizona St. late 2nd Qtr.

 

[cyclonez7]

Championship game tiebreakers without divisions and round robin schedules are going to be a real mess. Especially when the 12 team playoff will be at stake next year.

 

[simply1]

Way to fail, Cowboys. This is not what you do what opportunity.

You sure?

 

[PickSix]

Way to fail, Cowboys. This is not what you do what opportunity.

The Big 12 tried to rig the rules for them at OU's expense and they still screw it up...

 

[Helser 83]

How can he keep Bowman in the game?

 

[drmwevr08]

OSU is so strange. The last few weeks looking really worn out. (OK not oh)

 

[PickSix]

OSU is so strange. The last few weeks looking really worn out. (OK not oh)

It's almost like they spent 100% of their preparation and energy on Bedlam.

 

[BigJCy]

Oh my... Fake Punt to the Big DL and he tries to leap a guy.

 

[JM4CY]

Is Paul Rhoads a special assistant or on the BYU staff now or something?

 

[cyclones500]

You know, this discussion (particularly about an undefeated FSU maybe not getting in) is why I hate hate HATE the whole playoff committee setup. Anytime you give the power to decide playoff qualifiers to a group of humans, you end up with human biases (conscious or unconscious) coming into play. The committee has proven over and over again that they have no scruples about changing their positions about what’s most important from year to year, depending on which team might benefit more.

“Not having that 13th CCG data point is too important” becomes “Finishing second in an SEC division just proves that team is stronger than this other CCG champion.” “The eye test” or “we think Team A would beat Team B on a neutral field” is nothing but imaginary standards. And don’t get me started on how the committee can manipulate the early CFP rankings so it helps them get to the final four they want.

Now, to be fair, in most years the last couple of weeks have just seemed to work out, with the right teams winning when they needed to so as a generally accepted Best Four made the playoffs. It’d just be so perfect if now, in the final 4-team playoff year, we ended up with absolute chaos and seven or eight teams with valid claims for those four spots … then we’ll see what a “great job” this human committee is gonna come up with.

I am not holding my breath for much wisdom.

Agree for the most part.

You forgot the "Team (X) has a better balance of offense and defense" or such.

 

[ISU_Guy]

Just realized BYU is 5-6. this will also be another team to compete with if we lose tonight. I wonder how Bowl reps evaulate BYU? They travel well? Everything but the Bar scenes are good for the city?

 

[clonedude]

Do we really want to see Okie St get their doors blown off by Texas in the title game either? OU is WAY better than Okie St right now.

 

[CycloneErik]

You sure?

No. I figured being an ISU fan would add something to that.

 

[ISU_Guy]

Actual images in Stillwalter from this morning.