He averaged 4/4 against the shittiest teams we'll play all year. Is he really even a loss, other than depth? Honest question, maybe he's a great defender, I don't even know.
Will Iowa State make postseason play?
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"On paper" and in Hilton against cupcakes in Nov., a Sweet Sixteen.
In reality and in the B12, prolly NIT.
In reality and in the B12, prolly NIT.
It wouldn't be a year under TJ without everyone freaking out we won't make the tournament. But we once again will
I think he serves a few main purposes:
1) keeps BREs minutes down so Rob can come in and do what he does best
2) he’s the only guy that plays that can really go up and get stuff. We were getting killed by A&M beating us at the high point of rebounds
3) shot blocking threat. Kind of goes back to #2 but we have no other shot blocking threats
He’s a role player, but definitely a different type of asset when compared to our other post players.
With the youth and new pieces this team was destined to take some lumps early on. Not to diminish the brutal way the game played out yesterday.
Ultimately, I want to see these guys improve and get more comfortable playing with each other, and against stiffer competition than what they're used to. There will be plenty of opportunities for resume wins in conference play.
Ultimately, I want to see these guys improve and get more comfortable playing with each other, and against stiffer competition than what they're used to. There will be plenty of opportunities for resume wins in conference play.
I don't know why this is just taken for granted. Lipsey "worked on his shot" all summer and suddenly it's a given that he is some sort of marksman. I hope so.
Ya I love Tamin but the number of guards that couldn’t shoot in to their Sophomore college season and then become legitimate shooters has to be pretty small. Shooting the 3 is primarily based on talent for shooting the ball. Having to make mechanical adjustments AND redefine your existing game to include a deep ball is really really tough.
“Worked on their 3pt shot” is the basketball equivalent of “much improved O-Line” in football.
Yeah, shouldn't expect him to be a sharpshooter by any means. The main goal for his "improvement" is mainly just being a realistic threat to hit sometimes if teams choose to sag way off the way they commonly did last year.
Sure wish we could get Tre King more inside shots- not only is he strong but he MAKES his freethrows! Yet, as some people often say, he might be one of those 'tweeners' without a true position. He has to battle with taller guys to get a rebound and picks up often costly fouls. But back to the question by the OP: If our shooting improves across the board, I think we get in. But, if this past weekend is a truer picture of our ability of putting the ball in the hole, yikes, gonna be a frustrating year. Plenty of ball movement and open looks, but struggled shooting. But I felt that even when we were beating up on the early teams (except Milan).
Surprised about our lack of depth. Biliew is only contributing spot minutes to rest others and apparently Watson even less. Very little contribution. Tough to win 3 games in 4 days playing 7 guys. Although A & M seemed to survive w/o starters.
We've all seen this before, tho. Gotta believe in our coaches.
Surprised about our lack of depth. Biliew is only contributing spot minutes to rest others and apparently Watson even less. Very little contribution. Tough to win 3 games in 4 days playing 7 guys. Although A & M seemed to survive w/o starters.
We've all seen this before, tho. Gotta believe in our coaches.
I agree, and was wondering the same, in my last post. As hard as TJ pushes the defense and conditioning, it's a bit of a head scratcher why more players didn't get minutes during the ESPN Tournament. If you have depth, supposedly, use it.
I’m still baffled by this. I very much understand where people are coming from saying give him time and he will come around… but Omaha was a top 15 recruit nationally. Those guys normally go into their universities and are big time contributors right away. We all know Omaha has the athleticism, but did his year away from prep school hurt him this bad for preparation? I really hope he can figure it out and quickly, because we need him and a lot of us fans thought he would possibly be one of our better players this season.
I find it interesting the poll is about 75% to make the NCAA tournament right now.
Which is almost on the dot where the computer models have it.
"Wisdom of the crowds" and that whole thing.
Which is almost on the dot where the computer models have it.
"Wisdom of the crowds" and that whole thing.
A college coaching staff isn’t going to have much to do with a guy improving shooting, and it sure as heck isn’t going to happen in season. It’s almost completely about a guy putting in crazy amounts of work in the off-season. There’s a reason under the same coaches some guys improve and some don’t.
But what a staff needs to be able to do is figure out how to get their good three point shooters more good looks, their guys that can attack the rim more matchups and sets that give them space to attack and finish or kick, their guys with post moves some mismatches and kick opportunities, etc.
Obviously the more offensive skill you have the easier it is. If MM is getting a bunch of good looks from 3 or mismatch opportunities in the low post but just missing, so be it. If Gilbert or Tamin are getting opportunities to get switched on to by a big and attack but not finishing, so be it. But that isn’t happening very consistently at all. But if the offense ends up with the guys the defense wants shooting taking the shot, that’s not good offense. No team has five shooters, most have 1-3.
ISUs offensive makeup is pretty typical. One elite shooter, one good shooter (Tamin), two guys that can get into the paint extremely well (Gilbert and Tamin), and a couple guys that are decent around the rim.
TJ is an elite recruiter, great at getting guys to buy in, great at defensive strategy and coaching. Just need the offensive coaching to come along. ISU is only a few games in with the first offensively skilled roster TJ has had. It’s not there yet, but it will improve. Even great coaches have flaws that they need to work on. MC is an awesome coach, but he isn’t good at clock management.
Hate to be “Trust TJ” guy, but I trust he’s going to figure it out.
8-10 in the Big 12 likely isn’t going to do it with this non conference
