*** Official IOWA STATE vs #12 Texas A&M Game(Day) Thread ***
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Obviously not the showing in Florida that we wanted. It was the first true test away from Hilton, and obviously the magic wasn’t there.
There is room and time to shore up these issues before the conference play starts however. I’d rather hit these bumps in the road in late November than in January.
There is room and time to shore up these issues before the conference play starts however. I’d rather hit these bumps in the road in late November than in January.
I thought that was Tre King's whole raison de etre? Crash the glass and be the garbage man.
For whatever reason, he was basically invisible this weekend. Per game:
24 mins, 5.3 pts, 4.7 rebs, 1 steal, 3.3 fouls, and 2.7 TO.
If that is what he is going to be against athletic teams, then people who hate on Rob need to diversify. Their numbers are about identical.
He just has to get comfortable. He spends alot of time on the floor. And I don't on the floor as in playing time-- I mean literally on the floor. He's just real easy to move off his spot and not quite strong enough to rebound the way he's used to. I just think he needs force-fed minutes to get him more comfortable.
Rob is important because he knows the defense insanely well. Having him to mentor Omaha will pay off. Tre seems to still get in foul trouble.
Our guards need to finish free throws after driving so much into contact. I expect that to improve, but it might bite us some games.
Our guards need to finish free throws after driving so much into contact. I expect that to improve, but it might bite us some games.
Gotta be able to shoot and rebound if you want to play basketball. If we can't shoot better, we're not beating anyone with a pulse.
No sure why people keep dismissing Robert Jones play. If King, Watson or Biliew were making Robert's contribution, fans would be ecstatic.
Based on his play so far, there is no issue with him playing 30mpg at the 5. Would it be better if someone else stepped up and the split was 20/20 instead of 30/10, sure. And I hope Hasan can be that guy for the Big12 schedule.
I thought the reasons for the tournament were pretty simple. Open shots didn't go in. I hoped the outside shooting would be much improved this season, but against good teams this hasn't been the case.
Oh, you're going to see A LOT of that on here! Lol!
I think it boils down to talent. Texas A&M has dudes 1-10. Big, strong, athletic types that just know how to ball. The only one not like that was the ginger who was still taller and more wiry than any of our guards. Culturally the seem just as strong as Iowa State. TJ can get by and have marginal success with the SOCON, and MAC Level transfers he reels in, but our ceiling is pretty capped, and it really is harsh dose of reality this early on in the season.
so in other words, VT and A&M were doing what Pitt did. Dare us to beat them from the outside. I think we are going to start seeing that. Unless we can find another offensive scheme, it seems are season will go with our ability to hit form the outside, make teams pay for packing it in. Last year if Kalesher, Homes and Grill were all on at the same time, we were pretty much unbeatble. If two of the 3 were on, we were tough to beat, and only one of the 3, we lost. We really need someone beside Milan to start connecting.
VCU was similar in athletic advantage, and Va Tech had some too.
Also pure shooters.
Grit and determination only go so far.
We need to give these players some time to settle in. The first 4 games we played high school teams and our fan egos became inflated. Let these guys gel and we will be fine. There always seems to be a bottom like this with the good ISU teams.
I think that was part how other teams were defending us and part how we were structuring our offense in response. Once teams saw what Lipsey and Gilbert did to VCU, they sagged everything into the paint, which not only cut off our drives into the paint, it made it difficult to pass into our bigs and pass to our bigs on the drives.
Long story short, we need to be able to make those open shots to make teams pay for that, and once we do, everything will open back up inside.
Williams and Blum mentioned he was nursing an ankle injury.
Last year there were a lot of reasons to hate on BRE's play, or more to the point his usage. Against more athletic, superior opponents he struggled to keep up defensively and often forced the action on the offensive end. This year his improved footwork and propensity to dunk (rather than miss the bunnies) has made him much more useful. He's also not forcing as many shots when they are not there.
I've been a big Tre fan but I was disappointed the last few weeks. Offensively he was forcing (and not very effective) but I was more disappointed in his rebounding. Time and time again he failed to block out or prevent players from snatching rebounds over him. He's a physical specimen who's athletic and long arms...there's zero reason lesser (physical) specimens should be outworking/maneuvering him on the glass.
This year Rob is the least of our problems. In terms of usage Pavs is the much bigger issue and is often the cause of defensive breakdowns when he's on the floor.
Good info. Might explain why his rebounding was more than suspect this last week.
Looking at the stats tonight and there were a couple that surprised me in a good way
Robert Jones is shooting 75% from the field
Curtis Jones has a 3.8-1 assist to turnover ratio
Robert Jones is shooting 75% from the field
Curtis Jones has a 3.8-1 assist to turnover ratio
Yep, he’s looked a step slow. I worried right when it happened that it was something that was going to linger for awhile. Terrible/unfortunate timing combined with the Ward injury.
