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HFCS

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The playoff isn’t supposed to be about which conference is stronger, or the historical performance of your conference. It’s supposed to be getting four teams in based on their performance during this one particular season.

FSU did everything asked of them, played two SEC teams out of conference (they didn’t have to do that, how many P5 teams play two P5 non-con games?), and won them all. What else does the committee think they were supposed to do?

Alabama and the top of the SEC is good, no question. But FSU deserved it more this season.

You’re saying what you thinks makes sense…and does make sense.

This year the small biased committee has said it’s a pure power ranking if who is best right now and fairness/worthiness/deserving does not matter.

The small biased committee with zero set criteria has been a horrific idea from the beginning but people lived with it because 4 was better than 2.
 
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What if the Big12 and ACC aligned with the smaller conferences and pulled out of the CFP completely? Just go ahead and create the P2 system by putting the SEC and Big10 on an island. Put rules in place to keep CFB balanced and let those two conferences do their own thing.
There is a lot of wisdom in that post.
 
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Funny. When we went to bed last night, the Vegas line was that FSU was in. Then this morning, the line went towards Bama. Hmmm. Someone did some hi string lobbying.
 

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Because there are 68 teams? They get moved down a seed line or two BUT guess what? They still got in.
And I don't think they get "penalized," it's actually considered as a way to assess some results when a key player is out.

A situation like Kenyon Martin in 2000 probably was a "penalty," but the procedure today is far more in-depth (and Cincinnati did lose its first-round tournament game that season ... I don't want to go too far down a rabbit hole here).
 
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And I don't think they get "penalized," it's actually considered as a way to assess some results when a key player is out.

A situation like Kenyon Martin in 2000 probably was a "penalty," but the procedure today is far more in-depth (and Cincinnati did lose its first-round tournament game that season ... I don't want to go too far down a rabbit hole here).
Single players have waaaaaaay more impact on a basketball team than they do a football team.

FSU’s QB wasn’t playing defense. He wasn’t blocking upfront to open holes for the backs. There are, what, 84 other scholarship players on that roster, many of whom are essential parts of that 13-0 record, and the committee is telling them they’re just not good enough. It’s reprehensible.
 

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Single players have waaaaaaay more impact on a basketball team than they do a football team.

FSU’s QB wasn’t playing defense. He wasn’t blocking upfront to open holes for the backs. There are, what, 84 other scholarship players on that roster, many of whom are essential parts of that 13-0 record, and the committee is telling them they’re just not good enough. It’s reprehensible.

Wonder if Alabama would have been penalized if Milroe went down late in the game last night?

What am I saying, we all know there’s zero chance that happens. The backup QB would be hyped up to be the greatest qb to ever ride the bench.
 

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You’re saying what you thinks makes sense…and does make sense.

This year the small biased committee has said it’s a pure power ranking if who is best right now and fairness/worthiness/deserving does not matter.

The small biased committee with zero set criteria has been a horrific idea from the beginning but people lived with it because 4 was better than 2.
There's nothing wrong in itself with having a committee -- NCAA Tournament has a committee. But that committee assesses a s***-ton of analytics, a specific ratings system (involving schedule strength, game sites and other whatnots), and all of that is transparent, anyone has access to team sheets and such.

It has its flaws with seeding or bubble selection, certainly, but overall gets it right and (here's the main part for this comparson) at least we know what is included.
 
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Perhaps this has already been discussed, but one of the reasons they said they dropped FSU was because of the QB injury. With that logic shouldn't they have been dropped 3 games ago after the QB got hurt? Shouldn't have been in the top 4 before this week anyway...if you use their logic.
 
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clonedude

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Perhaps this has already been discussed, but one of the reasons they said they dropped FSU was because of the QB injury. With that logic shouldn't they they have been dropped 3 games ago after the QB got hurt? Shouldn't have been in the top 4 before this week anyway...if you use their logic.

Winner! We are allowed to punish you for your QB being injured... but we're going to wait to do it until after your final game of the season just to make it hurt a little more. Twist the knife that we're stabbing into your back.

If you don't drop them immediately after the injury... then I guess you're saying... well... we'll wait and see how you finish out your season with your backup QB. And FSU proceeded to go on and win out anyway... but then they still dropped them. Total BS.
 

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There's nothing wrong in itself with having a committee -- NCAA Tournament has a committee. But that committee assesses a s***-ton of analytics, a specific ratings system (involving schedule strength, game sites and other whatnots), and all of that is transparent, anyone has access to team sheets and such.

It has its flaws with seeding or bubble selection, certainly, but overall gets it right and (here's the main part for this comparson) at least we know what is included.
The NCAA committee is partially saved by having such a large field.

There are definitely snubs, but with 68 teams its a lot easier to say to those first teams out 'guess you shouldn't have lost so many games'. And teams that are underseeded by a line or two aren't significantly disadvantaged. A snub in a 4 team playoff means not being involved at all.

We'll fix the first part with the 12 team playoff, but the advantages in seeding from the committee's SEC\B1G bias will still play a role in a 12 team playoff I think.
 
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I just saw Florida state was left out, but that is complete ********.

I’m debating whether I’ll even watch the playoff games. My interest in college football has been going down and this didn’t help, and there are probably better uses of my time
 

clonedude

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Anyone planning on running out and betting their mortgage on Tennessee to cover over Iowa... hold on. Tennessee's bread and butter on offense is running the football. Iowa will shut that down.

Your best bet on this one will be the under... as usual for Iowa games.
 

WooBadger18

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Perhaps this has already been discussed, but one of the reasons they said they dropped FSU was because of the QB injury. With that logic shouldn't they they have been dropped 3 games ago after the QB got hurt? Shouldn't have been in the top 4 before this week anyway...if you use their logic.
They also should have been dropped way lower than 5th if you are going to use that logic.

The other thing it does is incentivize teams to rush injured players back and hide injuries
 

jcf817

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The 'Seneca was in, this is karma' folks understand that FSU was in the playoffs the first year right?

And that game was pretty meaningless?
However, we did play Bama and FSU in back-to-back games. Not many can say that. Not only was Yelk’s FG good (I was right behind the goal post), Seneca was in. Typical.
 
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