It's gonna be a rude awakening for some when the safety of being in the Big10 or SEC no longer protects the lower rungs.
Here comes the doomsday thread, sorry
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Iowa State's AD for 2021-2022 was $111 million, not the number he is showing. Not sure where his came, but mine came from the Sportico data base .
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Let me “well, ackshually” this by saying technically a 12-team playoff this year would have 1 ACC team, 1 G5 team, 1 Big 12 team, 2 PAC teams, and 5 SEC/B1G teams.
But in the future there’s nothing stopping it from being 1 ACC, 1 Big 12, 1 G5, and nine SEC/B1G teams.
I thought I was being too crazy a while back when I said the new playoff “controversy” would be between the SEC and B1G arguing over which one gets a fourth team in; turns out they’ll probably be debating over a fifth team per conference.
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What's happened is teams that were 1aa have become div 1 in droves for 1 thing--money. money generated by bowls, playoffs etc--very little of which james madison etc generate.
james madison was div 3 not that long ago.
why should wvu, isu, bama, ohio state, and lsu support these marginal 25000-30000 butts in the seats programs?
they shouldnt. I think all the big 12 teams will go to resources division and most of the acc minus maybe bc syracuse, wake.
james madison was div 3 not that long ago.
why should wvu, isu, bama, ohio state, and lsu support these marginal 25000-30000 butts in the seats programs?
they shouldnt. I think all the big 12 teams will go to resources division and most of the acc minus maybe bc syracuse, wake.
Exactly. Simply point to Washington State and Oregon State. I think that example should shock everyone. Especially when a Stanford was taken over them.
Right, and it just so happens that pretty much all the power 5 have budgets over 100 million. So they are saying power 5, just not explicitly.
BCS formula would have had 4 SEC, 3 B1G, 2 PAC, 2 Big XII, and 1 SEC.
All of it is out of whack as long as there are still conferences playing only 8 conference games.
It’s very possible, MSU is 12th in the country for AD revenue but the on field performance the last couple years has been so bad that if this change happened in the near future it would be really really rough. Would need a few more mega donor donations for sure.
Not sure about Iowa’s economics. But still super ******.
Would also be interesting to watch some schools like Virginia who have a bunch of money rise up
I did the math in the other thread, and 20-24 is enough for the best timeslots on the big flagships (about 3 huge ones, 3-4 good ones, and 4-5 okay ones).
That's where ~90% of the money is. The rest are all <1M viewers and thus not much more valuable than infomercials or Gunsmoke reruns.
Maybe that changes with a breakaway though.
If you're drawing less than a million eyeballs the argument will be to get you on an owned streaming platform so there is subscription income to offset the loss of advertising revenue.
My interest in college and pro sports has waned over the last 10 years because of the stuff like this. I just don't care much now. I'll decide later if I want to keep watching and if I don't, I doubt I'll be disappointed.
If this had all went down 20 years ago I would be crushed. Not any more.
If this had all went down 20 years ago I would be crushed. Not any more.
Scary stuff. These get really messy when the selected CFP media partner (ESPN) has an asset (the SEC) and they have the power to tip the scale behind closed doors. Objectivity goes out the window completely.
At least the NFL has guardrails in place. Bad teams get to draft better players. Salary cap prevents super teams. Set divisions exist and any team can make the playoffs if they win enough games.
So one thing is that a lot of SEC schools don’t have that much money. Now I could see some mega donors or just crazy fans stepping up but schools like Tenn, SC, Auburn, missouri and even Georgia don’t have that much money in terms of endowment. If the school has to add millions in additional costs things are gonna get interesting.
Georgia will probably still be fine obv
Georgia will probably still be fine obv
Same. I watch a lot of Iowa State and I watch other college football that impacts Iowa State. I watch Alabama/Georgia because there is a chance, especially in a 12-team playoff, that Iowa State could match up against them and because we are in the same "league" (NCAA FBS football).
If a top tier breaks away from that and Iowa State is not included, I'm not watching much of the top tier division because it won't impact Iowa State any more. If I'm going to invest in watching top football, its the NFL. There will certainly be a market for it but I'd argue its less than is currently watching right now.
By comparison, how many of you watch AAA baseball or G-league basketball? Almost no one. College football won't be that right away but I could certainly see it morphing more into that than the current (great) format.
CFB will never be G league or AAA, there are already massive alumni networks and fans of these teams going back generations. G league is less than a decade old and has no ties to anything. Triple A isn’t even televised, youre comparing apples to nails
And thinking long-term, they may not expect solid ISU fans to go become Iowa fans overnight, but they'll expect the next generation of casual fans to pick the only relevant option. Schools like ISU will simply develop fewer new fans over time and schools like Iowa more fans.
I'd also have little interest in this whole model though. I can do other things with my saturdays if ISU isn't at all relevant. I've been gaining more interest in the NFL the last couple years anyway, maybe that's just where I end up.
For added context on where the line between haves and have nots may be drawn:
Besides Iowa State, I rarely watch college football games anymore. I mostly watch NFL now. The last few years of going through realignment, greed, transfer portal, NIL, etc. has turned me away from college football. My family is on a tight budget and I have young kids so my priorities are in a different place at this point. The college football system is so broken that I'm almost to a point of just wanting it to collapse.
This is fine. Pretty easy for me to quit watching. The only games I tuned into this year were Iowa State ones, and even the ones that were in the middle of the afternoon on nice days I skipped. Used to love college football and basketball, but that has definitely faded big time for me the past 3-4 years. I will continue to find other things to do with my free time.
