49ers - Brock Purdy - Still and Always #1

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Am I dreaming too big to think that in the same sports year, we Cyclones may be able to witness a former Cyclone win the MVP in BOTH the NFL and the NBA?!?
Even if it doesn't happen this year, the chances that it happens sometime in the next 2 - 5 years definitely doesn't seem that crazy at this point. Definitely sounds a lot crazier today than it would have 15 months ago!
 

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I’m not an NBA guy. What are the legit chances for Tyrese? Brock seems like it’s his to lose. And lose only maybe to a teammate.
 

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I’m not an NBA guy. What are the legit chances for Tyrese? Brock seems like it’s his to lose. And lose only maybe to a teammate.

NBA MVP almost always going to a player whose team is in position to win East/West conference or close to it. I can’t remember the last time a guy won it whose team was in just so-so position and not at least a 3/4 seed in their conference.

Not sure Tyrese truly is MVP candidate and the buzz is more that he’s just actually a top 5 player and EASILY a top ten player. For people who weren’t his fans it is happening really fast.

Jokic has been the best actual player for awhile but voters tend to move it around to several players instead of just repeating the same player as MVP (he would have 2-3 in a row). Embiid another former MVP is up there as well. If it’s pure stats again it’s Joker, Tyrese is up there, but Doncic is putting up crazy stats too. There are maybe 6 players after Joker you could look at and make a stats arguement.

If the Pacers make one or two great moves in offseason and Tyrese plays this way or better I could see him in the discussion in more realistic way next year.

I’m the opposite where I’m just now learning what an NFL MVP usually is. I had no idea it was almost always a QB. If it ALWAYS goes to a QB that definitely helps our guy. If nba mvp always went to the best pure point guard maybe Tyrese would get it even without the Pacers dominating because he is definitely the best pure point guard. Some call Doncic a point guard but I see him more as a supremely gifted positionless or wing player.

Being a bandwagon 49ers fan it’s hard for me to imagine CMC isn’t easily NFL league MVP. He looks super human.
 
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NBA MVP almost always going to a player whose team is in position to win East/West conference or close to it. I can’t remember the last time a guy won it whose team was in just so-so position and not at least a 3/4 seed in their conference.

Not sure Tyrese truly is MVP candidate and the buzz is more that he’s just actually a top 5 player and EASILY a top ten player. For people who weren’t his fans it is happening really fast.

Jokic has been the best actual player for awhile but voters tend to move it around to several players instead of just repeating the same player as MVP (he would have 2-3 in a row). Embiid another former MVP is up there as well. If it’s pure stats again it’s Joker, Tyrese is up there, but Doncic is putting up crazy stats too. There are maybe 6 players after Joker you could look at and make a stats arguement.

If the Pacers make one or two great moves in offseason and Tyrese plays this way or better I could see him in the discussion in more realistic way next year.

I’m the opposite where I’m just now learning what an NFL MVP usually is. I had no idea it was almost always a QB. If it ALWAYS goes to a QB that definitely helps our guy. If nba mvp always went to the best pure point guard maybe Tyrese would get it even without the Pacers dominating because he is definitely the best pure point guard. Some call Doncic a point guard but I see him more as a supremely gifted positionless or wing player.

Being a bandwagon 49ers fan it’s hard for me to imagine CMC isn’t easily NFL league MVP. He looks super human.
Purdy is more MVP than that.
 

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With a big game today, Brock could become Iowa State's all time NFL leader in passing yardage. He's roughly 400 yards behind Seneca.

Should only be behind Kurt Warner for NFL success at QB among players who played in Iowa, FWIW.
 

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Man, the amount of people that want to see him fail in the media is unreal.

I hope he wins out (the eagles lose today for 49ers home field), the 49ers get to the super bowl and win it.

unfortunately people that have a voice on this stuff want to see some sort of highlight reel.

as far as tyrese. last night hurt him some, but he will still be in the hunt. Lots of comparision to purdy. He doesn't wow you physically, etc. just knows the game so much and has the best state lines.

Go 49ers
Go Cowboys (just for today)
Go Pacers
 

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NBA MVP almost always going to a player whose team is in position to win East/West conference or close to it. I can’t remember the last time a guy won it whose team was in just so-so position and not at least a 3/4 seed in their conference.

Not sure Tyrese truly is MVP candidate and the buzz is more that he’s just actually a top 5 player and EASILY a top ten player. For people who weren’t his fans it is happening really fast.

Jokic has been the best actual player for awhile but voters tend to move it around to several players instead of just repeating the same player as MVP (he would have 2-3 in a row). Embiid another former MVP is up there as well. If it’s pure stats again it’s Joker, Tyrese is up there, but Doncic is putting up crazy stats too. There are maybe 6 players after Joker you could look at and make a stats arguement.

If the Pacers make one or two great moves in offseason and Tyrese plays this way or better I could see him in the discussion in more realistic way next year.

I’m the opposite where I’m just now learning what an NFL MVP usually is. I had no idea it was almost always a QB. If it ALWAYS goes to a QB that definitely helps our guy. If nba mvp always went to the best pure point guard maybe Tyrese would get it even without the Pacers dominating because he is definitely the best pure point guard. Some call Doncic a point guard but I see him more as a supremely gifted positionless or wing player.

Being a bandwagon 49ers fan it’s hard for me to imagine CMC isn’t easily NFL league MVP. He looks super human.
Jokic won when the Nuggets were a 6 seed 2 years ago. But he was playing with a collection of players who couldn’t win the NCAA championship (Monte excluded).

I agree with the rest of your post though.
 

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Many people, and even some so called experts, are fixated on the hero ball QBs who make spectacular plays with their feet and arm in the last 2 minutes of games for dramatic come from behind victories (e.g., Mahomes, Allen). These are the high risk/high reward QBs who put in a great show.

These folks can't get as excited about someone like Purdy who is more accurate, more efficient, and makes fewer mistakes, so less dramatic.

I believe the game is slowly moving away from the hero ball QB and toward the accurate/efficient QB.
 

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Many people, and even some so called experts, are fixated on the hero ball QBs who make spectacular plays with their feet and arm in the last 2 minutes of games for dramatic come from behind victories (e.g., Mahomes, Allen). These are the high risk/high reward QBs who put in a great show.

These folks can't get as excited about someone like Purdy who is more accurate, more efficient, and makes fewer mistakes, so less dramatic.

I believe the game is slowly moving away from the hero ball QB and toward the accurate/efficient QB.
I agree and your 2nd paragraph especially is true.