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ClubCy

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People keep mentioning Bitter:

1. Wasn’t he a senior?
2. I can remember maybe 2-3 catches he has had yet people always mention his as a solid contributor.
 

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People keep mentioning Bitter:

1. Wasn’t he a senior?
2. I can remember maybe 2-3 catches he has had yet people always mention his as a solid contributor.
No he’s a junior. I mean we have weapons on this team and don’t throw it very often. He had some good catches and a couple big plays. He’s likely not going down as a cyclone legend but he’s more than capable of making winning plays and he’s a good size
 

CyValley

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I recall the announcement that Bitter was leaving. Did he change his mind and stay?
 

isucy86

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No he’s a junior. I mean we have weapons on this team and don’t throw it very often. He had some good catches and a couple big plays. He’s likely not going down as a cyclone legend but he’s more than capable of making winning plays and he’s a good size
I thought he walked on senior day. And word was he was going either enter portal or enter working world.
 

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I didn't think Army even had 9 passing attempts on the year.
You should have watched the Army/Navy game. Both teams passed the ball. It was awesome. Between the two teams they were 23/43/2.

I don't think there has been that much passing in this game since Roger Staubach played in the game. ;)

That game is a must watch for me every year.
 
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I have been to Houston, TX, I have been Boston area, I would say God gave him the right city. Charlotte is a sweet city these days. Not sure why God screwed him over his freshman year and injured him, or got him passed by a freshman his sophmore year. However, seems like God finally showed up to tell him to move to the sweet city of Charlotte.
Charlotte is a wayyyyy better city than Houston or Boston
 

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Yeah it creates all kinds of new ulcer inducing wrinkles. But you can see it becoming likely that P2 schools will want proven players and have less interest in developing high school talent. But that creates opportunities for other schools like ISU.
ulcer inducing wrinkles, Nice summation.
 

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I didn't think Army even had 9 passing attempts on the year.
Who needs to pass when you have a couple of these?
 
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CascadeClone

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Guys transferring out and going down a level kind of makes sense if you look at the overall big picture.

ISU gets a lot of 3 star type recruits. Some of those are underrated or develop into Big12 players thru hard work. And some are overrated or not as motivated, and were never gonna be good enough for this level. So when they move on, that means down.

For say, Texas, all 4 and 5 star recruits, even the ones that dont pan out are still big, fast, rated enough that other P5 will have lots of interest.
 

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Hm I would say Scheelhaase did a GREAT job of reccruiting Jaylin Noel, he is all big 12 next year maybe. Scheelhaase also gets some credit for Jayden Higgins, who is the best transfer WR we have had in a long time. Both Higgins and Noel can play on Sundays, especially Higgins.

For Jason Essex, Kai Black, and Beni Ngoyi - we'll know more by next winter. Too early to tell on them as others have said.
Yeah, if you have two really solid to great receivers at any given time, you are doing something right. Noel and Higgins are one hell of a base to build upon. Almost no one not named Ohio State has an all world third option.
 

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That’s because they hadn’t really focused on it until two years ago.
What do you mean? Two out of the three guys who have been multi-year contributors were in their first two classes and those guys were on rosters with Butler, Lazard, and Ryan who I'd put up against anyone we have now. Like I've said, I don't think this is some huge issue as much as I just want to know what they think is the reason we have such a small hit rate. I know what I think it is, but I have no idea if that's right.
 
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CascadeClone

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What do you mean? Two out of the three guys who have been multi-year contributors were in their first two classes and those guys were on rosters with Butler, Lazard, and Ryan who I'd put up against anyone we have now. Like I've said, I don't think this is some huge issue as much as I just want to know what they think is the reason we have such a small hit rate. I know what I think it is, but I have no idea if that's right.
Guessing - CMC & Co have really liked TALL receivers in the past. Maybe they overweight that too much in evals (reminds me how Iowa over values tall QBs).

Another possibility - maybe these playmakers get here and aren't as excited about blocking as they have to be to get on the field, and then lose motivation since they aren't playing. Even the star WRs (Lazard, Hakeem, X) were REALLY REALLY good blockers.

Could also just be our memory bias. WRs always have amazing highlights, and easy to focus on speed, height, etc. So you recruit 3-4 of those guys every year, and kind of expect ALL of them to be the next Hutchinson. But really you only need one per class to pan out at most.
 

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Another possibility - maybe these playmakers get here and aren't as excited about blocking as they have to be to get on the field, and then lose motivation since they aren't playing. Even the star WRs (Lazard, Hakeem, X) were REALLY REALLY good blockers.

Add Noel and Brahmer to the list of really good blockers. Some of our best runs this year have been aided by them blocking downfield.