Ozempic was approved in late '17. Tested for 3-4 (??) years prior. Millions use it. The health benefits greatly exceed the risks.
Help! I'm Fat - *** Official Exercise and Weight Thread ***
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Nope, I’m the same. They honestly sound like a late night infomercial but every study that comes out backs it up. Interesting times
Yeah, a friend of ours (f, 58) went on one of them for diabetes and she has had a lot of un-fun GI side effects. Honestly, I think she would have quit taking it, but she has lost like 8" off her waist and really likes that. So she is toughing out the nausea, loss of appetite, and surprise squirts to lose weight.
I believe a lot of people put weight back on when they get off these correct? Not to say they might not be a valuable tool going forward. just they aren't bulletproof yet
I promise I’m not coming at you but protein levels can only be detected in lab tests. Not through any scale.
One thing you have to remember is that these fitness tools and supplements are not reviewed or evaluated by anyone and at home things are often poor versions of expensive ones that can potentially work.
Also the problem with using it consistently is that you are never getting a baseline because the scale is heavily influenced by your hydration level and water retention.
True bio impedance measures require both your feet and hands to be engaged. Just using an at home scale isn’t going to give you accurate or consistent measurements.
Not always in medicine. Breakthroughs happen and this is a brand new field. Tricky part is we don’t understand yet exactly why all these benefits are occurring
Oxycotontin was approved too. Asbestos and lead paint used to be great too, until we found out they weren't.
I am NOT saying it's bad or don't use it. Hopefully it IS a miracle drug - and so far, so good. But there are always "unknown unknowns", and I will always worry about anything that seems "too good to be true".
I know 12 people on it purely for weight loss, including myself, and results are consistent. Weight loss, better lipid profile, and glucose levels like u are 18. Fabulous drug. Was recommended to me by Mayo three years ago. FDA has now approved Zepbound as a weight loss drug even if glucose is within standards.
This is why I'm trying to lose weight without them. One doctor I had wanted me to go on Wegovy to help me lose weight, which would help with my insulin resistance. However, I'm not keen on staying on something the rest of my life. So I'm trying to lose weight without medication (other than my metformin). So far, I'm doing OK. It's slow, but ... if I can avoid those meds, I'll take it.
1.3 - 1.6g/kg bodyweight, or 0.6 - 0.7g/lb bodyweight. That's the range to make sure you are maxing out your muscle synthesis. You can eat more, but most likely it will just end up being calorie surplus. You can probably get by with less than 1.3g/kg, but as you go further below that you are increasing the chances that you lose muscle along with fat.
All the studies are based on total body weight rather than lean mass, but for example I'm still really fat at 265lbs so I use 200lbs for my protein intake estimate. That's about 91kg, so my average daily protein intake is between 120 - 145g. I can get there with a couple hard boiled eggs or a protein bar for breakfast (15 - 20g), two cans of tuna for lunch (50 - 55g) and a chicken breast for dinner (50 - 60g). Plus veggies, which do have a few grams of protein as well (maybe another 5 - 10 total, though these aren't "complete" proteins). On days I don't get there with food, I supplement with a scoop of protein powder. Over the past year I've added a ton of strength at this level.
The caveat here you have to lift hard. Meaning select weights and rep schemes that get within a couple reps of failure for every set on every exercise. For my goals of max strength, I target of 1 - 5 reps per set on compound movements. If you're eating enough protein and just going through the motions with lifting - you're not having to really focus to get through the last couple reps, especially on the last set or two - you probably aren't lifting hard enough. You DON'T have to go to failure, ever. But you DO have to strain enough to force your body to change. The only difference between training for strength and training for growth/toning is for the latter you select lighter weights and higher reps. But you still need to get within a few reps of failure to generate enough stress to get the muscles to respond.
I totally understand this attitude but without trying to cave this that is also the same logic antivaxxers use.
You’re right some drugs despite going though rigorous testing don’t show effects until decades later. However that mindset could cut out alot of potential treatment options for many people.
Again not saying that’s you in any way and I too agree that it feels too good to be true with some of these insane results we are seeing.
Like if you heard “take one shot a week and you can lose weight, cut out junk food, overcome addictive behavior, exercise more and crave healthier foods!” I would call BS too
I'm probably not the guy to ask about drugs. I take nothing. No blood pressure. No cholesterol. No anxiety meds. Nothing to help my "flow"
Not saying that's good or bad, but I don't take anything more powerful than an aspirin.
I'm just not on anything and pretty skeptical of most every med
Those are fair statements, but the benefits greatly exceed the risks. Millions have been using it......it's now necessarily "new" or not been tested. We all can die by getting into a car vs. staying home.
I've found that many places will have two-packs of peeled hard boiled eggs in their refrigerated food sections. Usually have to look for them, but they're there. Not great, but take them down quick and follow up with coffee. I try to avoid the carbs in most protein bars.
Drinking around a gallon of water a day, my water levels should have been saturated, even with the loss from hot room workouts. I guess how would anyone know without ridiculous testing and money being wasted on simple baseline measures?
I've trended much more to the 5 rep range with a heavy weight.
Thinking I was doing a whole lot of junk reps when I was younger. Did I get results? Yep. Did I generally get hurt along the way? Absolutely.
Bench. Squat. Deadift. Row. Shoulder press. Compound movements to build strength and give Father Time the best battle I can.
I'll be snorting lines of protein powder just to try and hit the goal.
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